Tim’s Airfix 1/35 Austin K2/Y Ambulance .
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Cheers Jim. Agree ref Airfix decals, possibly the best on the market at the moment. They are as good or better than Italeri, who’s are made by Cartograph I think.Comment
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Okay, now that is even more interesting. Most of the K2s I've seen pictures of in the desert show them from the side or the wrong angle to see the bridging disc. Maybe an extra ton is added for soft sand?Comment
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Agreed, most of the images I have are from the side or the back…..apart from Katy of course.Comment
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The bridging class is not actual vehicle weight in tons, though.
Originally posted by https://thinkdefence.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/uk-military-bridging-load-classification/The elegant and simple solution they came up with was to invent a scale, or classification, related to weight but crucially, not only weight.
Each bridge type was allocated load class number and each vehicle was also given a load class number.
Instead of looking up and cross referencing a vehicle against a bridge classification a simple comparison of load class was performed, if the numbers matched or the vehicle was less than the bridge classification then it could pass.
A spacing of 80ft was assumed at the bridge classification took into account bending moment and other factors, it was not simply a weight (this is a key distinction)
Instead of weights of vehicles, each vehicle had a class, these starting at 3 and moving up to 24 in regular intervals.
If a vehicle’s load class was smaller than the bridges load class then it could cross and to assist with the rapid cross checking a standardised series of markings was designed, both bridge and vehicle had the marking in the same colours so a driver could simply compare the bridge sign with that painted on his vehicle and make the decision whether to cross without reference to bridge commanders or complex tables.Comment
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So the classification could actually change according to terrain then?Comment
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Yeah, I knew that the number on the vehicle isn't the vehicle weight but the bridge load capacity, so it does make sense for softer terrain to be classed as a higher loading.
Or should it be the other way round..?
Ooh, Warpaint Vol.4 by Dick Taylor has a whole section on bridge classification 'The simplicity of the concept guaranteed its longevity; exactly the same system is in use with the British - and NATO - forces to this day.'
Ooh,
'Because the lowest military Bridge Class was 5 tons, some vehicles lighter than this either seem to have used the 5 marking irrespective of their true class, or did not mark the disc at all.'
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4 Daimler Dingo, Humber Scout Car, Universal Carriers
5 Most 15cwt trucks, Daimler Dingo (later mks maybe?), White Scout, Austin K2 (there she is!), Universal Carriers
So , crossover between 4 an 5 tons. And , apparently also, some vehicles wer uprated to compensate for all the extra gear being carried
Now it makes sense. Thanks Jakko. Knew I had it in a book somewhere!Comment
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Yeah, I knew that the number on the vehicle isn't the vehicle weight but the bridge load capacity, so it does make sense for softer terrain to be classed as a higher loading.
Or should it be the other way round..?
Ooh, Warpaint Vol.4 by Dick Taylor has a whole section on bridge classification 'The simplicity of the concept guaranteed its longevity; exactly the same system is in use with the British - and NATO - forces to this day.'
Ooh,
'Because the lowest military Bridge Class was 5 tons, some vehicles lighter than this either seem to have used the 5 marking irrespective of their true class, or did not mark the disc at all.'
Weight classes -
4 Daimler Dingo, Humber Scout Car, Universal Carriers
5 Most 15cwt trucks, Daimler Dingo (later mks maybe?), White Scout, Austin K2 (there she is!), Universal Carriers
So , crossover between 4 an 5 tons. And , apparently also, some vehicles wer uprated to compensate for all the extra gear being carried
Now it makes sense. Thanks Jakko. Knew I had it in a book somewhere!Comment
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I have trouble remembering what info is in which of my many, many, many...
...many books
Then using the same one over and over
Index them all? What nonsense is that?Comment
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I found it on the Internet somewhere, about ten years ago by now I suppose, but it was a list taken from an official wartime publication. I copied parts of it for something I was working on, but not all of it as not everything was pertinent to that, including the Austin K2; I did find this, that I got from there, though:
“Fractions” mean the disc had two numbers, one above the other, but that’s kind of hard to format here.Cruiser Tank, Cromwell 26 Cruiser Tank, Sherman 30 Infantry Tank, Churchill 40 A.V.R.E., Churchill 40 Light Tank, Stuart 15 Light Tank, Tetrarch 7 S.P. Gun, Centaur A.A. 21 S.P. Gun, Crusader A.A. 21 S.P. Gun, M.10 33 Carrier, Loyd 5 —towing Q.F. 6-pounder Gun 6/5 Carrier, Universal 5 Gun Tractor, Crusader 18 Light Reconnaissance Car, Canadian G.M. 5 Light Reconnaissance Car, Humber 3 Scout Car, Daimler 4 Scout Car, Humber 5 Armoured Car, A.E.C. 14 Armoured Car, Daimler 9 Armoured Car, Greyhound 7 Armoured Car, Humber 9 Armoured Car, Staghound 14 or 15 Car, 5-cwt., 4×4 (Jeep) 3 —towing Q.F. 6-pounder Gun 5/3 —towing Trailer, 15-cwt. 5/3 —towing Trailer, 1-ton 6/3 Truck, 8-cwt. 2 Truck, 15-cwt. 5 —towing Q.F. 17-pounder Gun 7/6 Truck, 15-cwt., Half-track 8 Lorry, 3-ton 7, 8 or 9 Trailer, 15-cwt. 2 Trailer, 1-ton 3 Comment
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