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  • Airborne01
    • Mar 2021
    • 3996
    • Steve
    • Essex

    #136
    Is this acceptable (1/9 scale, Para Officer '44)?
    Steve
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    • Geoffers
      SMF Supporters
      • Jan 2017
      • 1711
      • Geoff
      • Shropshire

      #137
      I really can’t see why not.

      Unless he’s wearing something only issued months after D-Day, which I presume he isn’t.

      Geoff.

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      • Airborne01
        • Mar 2021
        • 3996
        • Steve
        • Essex

        #138
        Originally posted by Geoffers
        I really can’t see why not.

        Unless he’s wearing something only issued months after D-Day, which I presume he isn’t.

        Geoff.
        No! early Denison smock with short zip, standard later pattern helmet, Sten gun magazine pouches, '37 pattern webbing etc - and a rather spiffing moustache of course! Oh, and a face veil scarf!
        Steve

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        • Greg_147
          • Feb 2014
          • 345

          #139
          Hello all. Before I start building it, am I alright with a Firefly? They were deployed on D-Day, but just in case this one is a late-late version or something...


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          • Guest

            #140
            Good question … If you really want, I could look it up in the Firefly Bible, but off the top of my head you’re probably good. If you want to be safe, you would want a VC instead of a IC (“5C” vs. “1C”) but converting your IC into a VC would be a lot of work, as it would entail lengthening the hull and completely rebuilding the engine deck.

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            • Greg_147
              • Feb 2014
              • 345

              #141
              Feel free to not look into it too much... :smiling5: I've had a look at as many online resources as I can, and after explaining the differences between IC and VC, most go on to describe both as 'fireflies' and move on. I can't find anything that specifically says they weren't in service at the same time as VCs. If all are happy I'll give it a go!

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              • Geoffers
                SMF Supporters
                • Jan 2017
                • 1711
                • Geoff
                • Shropshire

                #142
                Originally posted by Greg_147
                Feel free to not look into it too much... :smiling5: I've had a look at as many online resources as I can, and after explaining the differences between IC and VC, most go on to describe both as 'fireflies' and move on. I can't find anything that specifically says they weren't in service at the same time as VCs. If all are happy I'll give it a go!
                Hello Greg

                The kit markings for the 23rd Hussars would be ok as they landed in France a week after D-day which fits into the GB time frame.

                Geoff.

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                • Guest

                  #143
                  Originally posted by Greg_147
                  Feel free to not look into it too much... :smiling5:
                  I’m now at my computer instead of downstairs on the sofa, and getting to the book is now only a matter of turning my chair around First of all, I come across this paragraph on page 59, after just opening the book randomly:
                  The Firefly did not come ashore in Normandy in the first wave of the assault due to its inability to be converted to DD configuration (…). Second wave units certainly had them and they were to be seen ashore very soon after the landings.
                  So that’s good Most of the photos in Normandy are of VCs, but on page 78 is one of definitely a IC:

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                  It has a one-piece nose, which means it can’t be a Sherman V, and the wheel spacing is also too small for a V. This photo was taken on 1 August 1944, which I guess is still in the right time frame. Page 81 has another picture of a IC with a sharp nose like the Tamiya kit (the one in the photo above has a rounded nose), and is captioned as having been taken on 16 July. Page 82 has another IC in “the square at Putanges, 20th August 1944”

                  Originally posted by Greg_147
                  I can't find anything that specifically says they weren't in service at the same time as VCs. If all are happy I'll give it a go!
                  The VC was the more numerous in mid-1944, but the IC was definitely around too. It’s mainly the IC Hybrid (which had a cast upper hull front, but the rest of the upper hull was welded) that only seems to have come in later. I’d say you’re on safe ground with this kit.

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                  • spanner570
                    SMF Supporters
                    • May 2009
                    • 15427

                    #144
                    Originally posted by Andy T
                    I may be wrong but since this is supposed to be fun rather than an exercise in perfect historical accuracy, near enough should be good enough.
                    That's how I thought it might be too Andy.


                    Sorry Geoff, but I'll have to back out of this G.B. of yours.

                    I'm a near enough, just having fun modeller and all this discussion about absolute 100% accuracy, correct markings and did it or didn't it appear on D.Day has put me off.

                    I appreciate that folks want to get things absolutely spot on, that's fine, but spare a thought for those who just wanted to muck in with the spirit of the G.B.

                    I will be quietly following along and as a bonus I see Steve (stona) is building the same kit as I was going to make, so I can watch his effort - With a critical eye, of course.

                    Good luck with all the builds chaps.:thumb2:

                    Ron

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                    • Lee Drennen
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 7711

                      #145
                      Originally posted by spanner570
                      all this discussion about absolute 100% accuracy, correct markings and did it or didn't it appear on D.Day has put me off.
                      Your absolutely right 570 kinda turning me off this GB too hope my subjects are correct enough to fit the bill. I just want to build and have fun.

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                      • Lee Drennen
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 7711

                        #146
                        Originally posted by Andy T
                        be fun rather than an exercise in perfect historical accuracy
                        Andy I really hope this Forum does not turn into this way I’ve been on other ones and left because of this nonsense.

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                        • Waspie
                          • Mar 2023
                          • 3488
                          • Doug
                          • Fraggle Rock

                          #147
                          Originally posted by Lee Drennen
                          This will be my new Choice for the GB. Yes I’m replacing those hideous wheels and tires. [ATTACH=CONFIG]n1225354[/ATTACH]
                          Oh very nice Lee.

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                          • Guest

                            #148
                            Originally posted by spanner570
                            That's how I thought it might be too Andy.


                            Sorry Geoff, but I'll have to back out of this G.B. of yours.

                            I'm a near enough, just having fun modeller and all this discussion about absolute 100% accuracy, correct markings and did it or didn't it appear on D.Day has put me off.

                            I appreciate that folks want to get things absolutely spot on, that's fine, but spare a thought for those who just wanted to muck in with the spirit of the G.B.

                            I will be quietly following along and as a bonus I see Steve (stona) is building the same kit as I was going to make, so I can watch his effort - With a critical eye, of course.

                            Good luck with all the builds chaps.:thumb2:

                            Ron
                            That's a real shame.

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                            • A_J_Rimmer
                              SMF Supporters
                              • May 2024
                              • 801
                              • Arnold
                              • North Wales

                              #149
                              Originally posted by spanner570
                              That's how I thought it might be too Andy.


                              Sorry Geoff, but I'll have to back out of this G.B. of yours.

                              I'm a near enough, just having fun modeller and all this discussion about absolute 100% accuracy, correct markings and did it or didn't it appear on D.Day has put me off.

                              I appreciate that folks want to get things absolutely spot on, that's fine, but spare a thought for those who just wanted to muck in with the spirit of the G.B.

                              I will be quietly following along and as a bonus I see Steve (stona) is building the same kit as I was going to make, so I can watch his effort - With a critical eye, of course.

                              Good luck with all the builds chaps.:thumb2:

                              Ron
                              Sorry to hear that Ron.

                              Admittedly I'm new here, but having read back through this thread and to be fair to Geoff, I do think he IS trying to keep it light hearted and in the realms of close enough is good enough.

                              I'm very much in the same mindset of yourself and Lee, I'm a fun first accuracy later kind of modeller, and I can't 100% say if any of the subjects I've shortlisted actually took part, but they have the right markings and should be a good representation of those that did - but I shall still enter in the spirt of the thing anyway. :smiling:

                              Looking forward to seeing your next build regardless!

                              Cheers!
                              Arnold Judas Rimmer BSc SSc

                              ''Happiness is a Triple Fried Egg Sandwich with Chilli Sauce and Chutney''

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                              • stona
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 9889

                                #150
                                Originally posted by spanner570


                                I will be quietly following along and as a bonus I see Steve (stona) is building the same kit as I was going to make, so I can watch his effort - With a critical eye, of course.

                                Ron
                                I have no idea if any Jeeps were landed from gliders in any of the airborne operations surrounding D-Day, nor do I care. I'll make my kits and if they don't fit the criteria so be it, I won't bother with the GB and have fun anyway.

                                Also, I'd love to see what you would do with a glider! I'm guessing it would be post arrival/landing/crash and involve something from the garden or garage floor

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