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  • adt70hk
    SMF Supporters
    • Sep 2019
    • 10446

    #76
    Originally posted by colin m
    Iโ€™m in. Father Christmas was rather good to me, leaving this offering under the tree for me.
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]n1215389[/ATTACH]
    Definitely a biplane!!

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    • adt70hk
      SMF Supporters
      • Sep 2019
      • 10446

      #77
      I've just discovered mine may have a bit of rigging but the instructions are a bit vague on that point.... But I'll give it a go if necessary!

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      • colin m
        Moderator
        • Dec 2008
        • 8806
        • Colin
        • Stafford, UK

        #78
        Originally posted by adt70hk
        Definitely a biplane!!
        Indeed. Mind you, you should see how many different schemes this model comes with.

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        • colin m
          Moderator
          • Dec 2008
          • 8806
          • Colin
          • Stafford, UK

          #79
          Rigging,
          There's a bit of chat about rigging going on. I'm ok with rigging, I've developed my method which is fine for me. However, if rigging just isn't your thing, and you still fancy a Bi-plane, have a look at a Fokker D.VII
          Amusingly, I've just discovered, for someone who is ok with rigging, this aircraft doesn't have any ! And this is the aircraft father Christmas left me, for this group build.

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          • The Smythe Meister
            • Jan 2019
            • 6248

            #80
            "FATHER" ........
            Sorry couldn't resist... Mat Berry's superb entrance the I.T. Crowd!!

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            • Dave Ward
              • Apr 2018
              • 10549

              #81
              Originally posted by colin m
              Indeed. Mind you, you should see how many different schemes this model comes with.
              It always seems a pity to have to choose one - so
              Fokker D.VII (OAW early/mid) OVERTREES 1/48 - Kit contains only plastic sprues. Have a look at the related products for this Overtrees kit (scroll down) - you can find many interesting and useful item

              There are a whole load of overtrees - 1/72, 1/48 - just the plastic, no instructions or decals - the downside is the postage.........................you have to buy several models to make it worth it ( yes, I've done that! )
              Dave

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              • Dave Ward
                • Apr 2018
                • 10549

                #82
                Been doing a bit of research on NIVO paint for my Heyford - NIVO meansNight Invisible Varnish Orfordness - I wish I hadn't bothered! One of those paints that no-one seems to agree on. I'll be using acrylics, so enamels/lacquers haven't been considered. FS34096 seems to one front runner, but Dark Slate Grey another. I reckon I'll have to dig around in the paint locker, and see what I can find. I don't think there are any surviving aircraft with the NIVO finish, so no visual colour references, of course I could go for this. instead
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                I'm going to have to do a bit of paint experiments, I can see................
                Dave

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                • Steve-the-Duck
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 1731
                  • Chris
                  • Medway Towns

                  #83
                  Y'know, that's the first time I've seen ANYONE define the NIVO acronym!

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                  • Dave Ward
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 10549

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Steve-the-Duck
                    Y'know, that's the first time I've seen ANYONE define the NIVO acronym!
                    About the only thing I could confidently say! :rolling:
                    Dave

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                    • colin m
                      Moderator
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 8806
                      • Colin
                      • Stafford, UK

                      #85
                      Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
                      "FATHER" ........
                      Sorry couldn't resist... Mat Berry's superb entrance the I.T. Crowd!!
                      Not something I'm familiar with, but it looks funny, so I'll look it up.

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                      • colin m
                        Moderator
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 8806
                        • Colin
                        • Stafford, UK

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Dave Ward
                        Been doing a bit of research on NIVO paint for my Heyford - NIVO means Night Invisible Varnish Orfordness
                        Did Matchbox offer an all green version of this model ? I seem to remember when I was a lad, it was all green. However, I do like the look of yours Dave, with its healthy coat of yellow.

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                        • Dave Ward
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 10549

                          #87
                          Originally posted by colin m
                          Did Matchbox offer an all green version of this model ? I seem to remember when I was a lad, it was all green. However, I do like the look of yours Dave, with its healthy coat of yellow.
                          The Matchbox OOB is 'green', but it was actually NIVO - the yellow trainer job was just an alternative scheme I found, if I didn't care to look for what NIVO actually is - I actually dislike trainer yellow, I find it difficult to get a good finish................
                          Dave

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                          • stillp
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 8106
                            • Pete
                            • Rugby

                            #88
                            According to Wiki: "
                            NIVO, abbreviated from Night Invisible Varnish Orfordness (or "Night Varnish Orfordness"),[2] was a dark grey-green overall finish applied to British night bomber aircraft in the inter-war period (1918-1939).

                            NIVO-finished Vickers Vimy serial F8614 at the RAF Museum London
                            Developed in 1918 by the experimental station at Orford Ness, as a low-visibility colouring for the Royal Air Force it had a sheen to match that of open water on a moonlit night.[3]

                            It was applied to aircraft from 1918 and was used on the Vickers Virginia, Handley Page Hyderabad, Handley Page Hinaidi, Handley Page Heyfords and Fairey Hendon bombers.

                            By the mid 1930s, tests had determined that the varnish was too reflective when searchlights were shone on it.[3] NIVO was phased out in the late 1930s, and had been discontinued by the time of the arrival of the new British medium bombers - the Vickers Wellington, Handley Page Hampden and Armstrong Whitworth Whitley.

                            NIVO is covered by Federal Standard 595 colour FS:34096"

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                            • stillp
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 8106
                              • Pete
                              • Rugby

                              #89
                              Colourcoats have a NIVO in their range, and so do Xtracrylic at Hannants.
                              Pete

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                              • The Smythe Meister
                                • Jan 2019
                                • 6248

                                #90
                                Originally posted by stillp
                                Blimey,some incredible,long forgotten,names there!! ...Vickers Virginia, Handley Page Hyderabad, Handley Page Hinaidi, Handley Page Heyfords and Fairey Hendon bombers......British medium bombers - the Vickers Wellington, Handley Page Hampden and Armstrong Whitworth Whitley.
                                Not great aircraft admittedly,but iconic in their own way,I wish they did some in 1/48, I'd definitely be up for them... Especially the Hampden

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