Tim’s 1/48 Eduard Roland CII

[tr1ckey66]

Hi Tim
Great subject with a crazy scheme - the curtains are genius!!!
Good luck with the build mate
All the best
P

[Allen Dewire]

Yep, I agree there. Always thought it looked quite modern for its time. Very clean lined with the pilot situated above the wing giving him a better than average viewpoint.

Hi Tim
Great subject with a crazy scheme - the curtains are genius!!!
Good luck with the build mate
All the best
P

But you know why they put the windows with the curtains in the Roland...The pilot had a good view all around, but couldn't see the landing gear when approaching the ground to land, which led to many crashes. The windows allowed him to have a better view/feel for where the wheels were in relation to the ground on landing...

Prost
Allen

[Tim Marlow]

Hi Tim
Great subject with a crazy scheme - the curtains are genius!!!
Good luck with the build mate
All the best
P

Cheers Paul. Yep, the curtains certainly show a sense of humour in the occupants…..

[Tim Marlow]

But you know why they put the windows with the curtains in the Roland...The pilot had a good view all around, but couldn't see the landing gear when approaching the ground to land, which led to many crashes. The windows allowed him to have a better view/feel for where the wheels were in relation to the ground on landing...

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Allen

You know far more about this subject than I do, so I’m not arguing. Wouldn’t it have made more sense to put the window in the bottom in that case though?

[Tim Marlow]

But you know why they put the windows with the curtains in the Roland...The pilot had a good view all around, but couldn't see the landing gear when approaching the ground to land, which led to many crashes. The windows allowed him to have a better view/feel for where the wheels were in relation to the ground on landing...

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Allen

Hey Allen, thanks for the info on the curtains. Can you tell me when they added the pot plants and bird cage though? I like to get the details correct LOL.

[Allen Dewire]

Morn Tim,

Love the pic!!! I'm no expert, but I have been studying WWI wing thingy's and found that most pilot's seats were mounted on the fuel tank in them. As for putting a window in the floor, there wasn't much room in the Roland to do so. Besides, the pilot wouldn't have a 'horizon' effect while landing. Observer's did have a window in some plane's floor though.

As for the pic above, I think it's a propaganda pic and an inside Jasta joke for the homefront. Many planes carried pigeons as a way to send messages back to the HQ during their recon flights. They were normally carried in a small basket and not a large cage. Radios were still in their infancy and eventually took a bigger roll, but their range was also limited. I really think the curtains were a decorative addition that hid the folks inside. The cage over the pilot's MG is actually a roll over cage in case of a crash on landing. It was kinda small to keep it aerodynamic. Can't say if it helped save lives in a crash...

Prost
Allen

[Steve-the-Duck]

Wait a sec. Are those curtains on the OUTSIDE?

[Tim Marlow]

Morn Tim,

Love the pic!!! I'm no expert, but I have been studying WWI wing thingy's and found that most pilot's seats were mounted on the fuel tank in them. As for putting a window in the floor, there wasn't much room in the Roland to do so. Besides, the pilot wouldn't have a 'horizon' effect while landing. Observer's did have a window in some plane's floor though.

As for the pic above, I think it's a propaganda pic and an inside Jasta joke for the homefront. Many planes carried pigeons as a way to send messages back to the HQ during their recon flights. They were normally carried in a small basket and not a large cage. Radios were still in their infancy and eventually took a bigger roll, but their range was also limited. I really think the curtains were a decorative addition that hid the folks inside. The cage over the pilot's MG is actually a roll over cage in case of a crash on landing. It was kinda small to keep it aerodynamic. Can't say if it helped save lives in a crash...

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Allen

Errrrrr……..I think carrying the pigeons on the rear parabellum like that would crimp the observers style in aerial combat.

As to the curtains, I’ve now looked at a lot of pictures and they actually look painted on. They don’t seem to be on the earlier versions, only the later ones. I can’t find any internal shots so can’t really tell if they were real or not. Can’t see them hiding the crew either. The crew stick out of the top of the fuselage when they are sat on their seats. I suppose if they closed the curtains it would help cut the light down when changing the plates on the camera? Bit of an enigma really.

[Tim Marlow]

Wait a sec. Are those curtains on the OUTSIDE?

Yes, and so are the plant pots…….

[colin m]

Hey Allen, thanks for the info on the curtains. Can you tell me when they added the pot plants and bird cage though? I like to get the details correct LOL.

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And we were led to believe, the Germans didn't have a sense of humour.

[Tim Marlow]

Well, I’ve been making progress…….
References differ on the interior colour, so I went with the wingnut wings instructions……a blue grey. Personally I think it makes it look quite modern,…



All looks a little crude in close up, but then most of it will be quite hard to see….windows were masked before being glued in. I find that much easier than handling the whole model. Not sure how the curtain decals will look when the tape’s removed though…..


Observers station (camera is mounted on the other fuselage half).


Pilots bit. Must have been hard to see the instruments….. Belts made from Tamiya tape. Crude but effective.


Aero engine. Quite a nice little model, but poor locating points.

Fit is OK, but could do with a little more positive points to get the alignment correct. Still, slowly and carefully does the trick. Next job is drill holes for rigging (which would have been easier before I put the internals in) then stick the fuselage together once the internals have set.

It’s been fun so far….

Cheers all.

[Dave Ward]

The Roland model dates from 2000, Eduard were making the transtion from short-run to mainstream kits, and poor location points was a feature ( or not ) of their earlier models. The first Eduard model I made was the Fokker E.III ( 1993 ), and that was a real short run effort - a few crudish plastic parts - but with a large PE fret. Interesting to see how far Eduard have advanced in the past years
Dave

[Tim Marlow]

The Roland model dates from 2000, Eduard were making the transtion from short-run to mainstream kits, and poor location points was a feature ( or not ) of their earlier models. The first Eduard model I made was the Fokker E.III ( 1993 ), and that was a real short run effort - a few crudish plastic parts - but with a large PE fret. Interesting to see how far Eduard have advanced in the past years
Dave

Fully agree. Apart from the name on the box there is very little to tie this and the Zero together. Doesn’t make it a bad kit though, just shows how far they’ve come as a manufacturer.

[Mickc1440]

Making great progress Tim

[scottie3158]

Tim, Looking really good.