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  • Tim Marlow
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 18931
    • Tim
    • Somerset UK

    #76
    Originally posted by papa 695
    Some very nice work Tim,it’s looking great.
    Cheers Ian. Colours look a little incongruous to me, but that’s what they were like….

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    • Tim Marlow
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 18931
      • Tim
      • Somerset UK

      #77
      A bit further toward here….
      Decals on and matted down..
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      Next job is fit the rigging lines to the top wing. It is therefore only partially matted down.
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      The area where the decal will go has been left glossed. The idea is to add the rigging lines through the holes (just visible in line with the R on the block), refinish the top wing where necessary, and then add the decal and finish the matte varnish before adding the wing. The underside has already been finished. When the rigging is done the bottom wing will be similarly finished. At least, this is the plan

      Prop came out OK though.
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      Not bothering to paint the metal bit in the middle because that will be hidden under the huge boss.

      Cant put it off any longer…..on to the rigging.

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      • Tim Marlow
        SMF Supporters
        • Apr 2018
        • 18931
        • Tim
        • Somerset UK

        #78
        First wing strung up ready to go….
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        This shows the touch ups required on the top…visible just above the white paper….
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        Having a rest now, next one tomorrow probably.

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        • Dave Ward
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 10549

          #79
          Colours! I've seen the purple referred to as violet, mauve & lilac as well! Ah well, I imagine these colours weathered very quickly, so any could be correct!
          Dave

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          • Tim Marlow
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 18931
            • Tim
            • Somerset UK

            #80
            Originally posted by Dave Ward
            Colours! I've seen the purple referred to as violet, mauve & lilac as well! Ah well, I imagine these colours weathered very quickly, so any could be correct!
            Dave
            Colours from this period are very speculative Dave. They would have been hand mixed from linseed oil and pigment powder, and had no varnish content so would change very quickly according to atmospheric conditions.

            As an example, I’ve got the recipes somewhere for LSWR railway colours of the same vintage…..it states how much of each pigment is added and how much linseed oil carrier goes in. Nowhere was there a paint standard chip to compare it to, just a recipe. The stock was expected to be varnished afterwards for protection, because the paint had no varnish content, then revarnished at two yearly intervals, without repainting. They were only stripped and completely repainted every eight years. The colours would therefore vary considerably from first paint until just before the repaint eight years later. No reason for thinking these would be any different, except they were probably doped rather than varnished.

            In this case I just went with the colour recommendation from the Wingnut wings instructions for the same aircraft as their research was almost certainly more extensive than I could manage. Personally I think it’s all a bit bright for the non synthetic pigments that would have been used at the time, but then I wasn’t there, and neither was anyone else now alive.

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            • Jim R
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 15737
              • Jim
              • Shropshire

              #81
              That is looking very good Tim. Rigging is time consuming and frequently frustrating but really sets these old " kites" off. As for colours of historical planes, armour, ships etc - a quagmire only the brave or foolish would get into :smiling:

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              • Tim Marlow
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 18931
                • Tim
                • Somerset UK

                #82
                Originally posted by Jim R
                That is looking very good Tim. Rigging is time consuming and frequently frustrating but really sets these old " kites" off. As for colours of historical planes, armour, ships etc - a quagmire only the brave or foolish would get into :smiling:
                Cheers Jim. I know the rigging is the icing on this weird coloured cake, hence taking my time on it. As to colours, my first job was in colour chemistry as a yarn dyer in pre computerised days. I know all colour matching at the time was subjective, usually, but not always, done by eye against a standard. Some paint (Humbrol authenticolour anyone) was made with reference to the previous manufactured batch. That is a recipe for colour drift if there ever was one, especially if different members of staff made the comparison. This situation was only improved with the implementation of reliable digital colour matching technology in the 1990s, but I bet it still persists in the fabric world because natural yarns vary in nature anyway. Any colour paint or fabric made before that would certainly exhibit variance batch to batch, and that was even when new. Atmospheric impact and user wear would put you on a hiding to nothing.

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                • Steve-the-Duck
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 1731
                  • Chris
                  • Medway Towns

                  #83
                  I look at the side view with that mouth full of teeth...

                  ...And the Jaws theme plays in my head

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                  • Tim Marlow
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 18931
                    • Tim
                    • Somerset UK

                    #84
                    I know what you mean…..Watch this from about thirty seconds in then….

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                    • JR
                      • May 2015
                      • 18273

                      #85
                      Esp love that prop Tim, looks real.

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                      • Ian M
                        Administrator
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 18271
                        • Ian
                        • Falster, Denmark

                        #86
                        Not sure how but I have missed this one. Sorry Tim.
                        You are doing a great job om this colourful aircraft. I can fully understand why some are totally hooked on (German) WWI aircraft, ty do make for a colourful collection.
                        As Mr. Ewing wrote, that prop looks real!
                        Group builds

                        Bismarck

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                        • Tim Marlow
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 18931
                          • Tim
                          • Somerset UK

                          #87
                          Originally posted by JR
                          Esp love that prop Tim, looks real.
                          Cheers John. Much appreciated. Simple to do, by the way. Spray in buff. Mask thin strips. Spray in brown. Remove masking and give it several coats of clear orange….simples. It’s the clear orange that’s the secret sauce.

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                          • Tim Marlow
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 18931
                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Ian M
                            Not sure how but I have missed this one. Sorry Tim.
                            You are doing a great job om this colourful aircraft. I can fully understand why some are totally hooked on (German) WWI aircraft, ty do make for a colourful collection.
                            As Mr. Ewing wrote, that prop looks real!
                            Cheers Ian, very kind of you.

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                            • The Smythe Meister
                              • Jan 2019
                              • 6248

                              #89
                              That's looking the business there Tim, lovely stuff mate :thumb2:.

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                              • Tim Marlow
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 18931
                                • Tim
                                • Somerset UK

                                #90
                                Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
                                That's looking the business there Tim, lovely stuff mate :thumb2:.
                                Thanks Andy, too kind……

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