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Completed...'In the Woods'....Brush Painted 'Disc Camo' Stug IV with schurzen.

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  • stillp
    • Nov 2016
    • 8106
    • Pete
    • Rugby

    #16
    Very nice - reminds me of those tests for colour blindness!

    Pete

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    • Guest

      #17
      Love this! The disk camo looks awesome!

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      • Gern
        • May 2009
        • 9259

        #18
        Originally posted by Mr Bowcat
        Very interesting pattern, good job Ron. It reminds me of one of those magic eye puzzles. If I look at it cross eyed will I see a hidden image?
        Yes. If you look really close you'll see a StuG IV!

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        • Mr Bowcat
          • Dec 2016
          • 4627
          • Bob
          • London

          #19
          Cheers Ron, now I've spat tea all over my keyboard.
          Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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          • spanner570
            • May 2009
            • 15482

            #20
            Originally posted by Mr Bowcat
            Cheers Ron, now I've spat tea all over my keyboard.
            twern't me Bob, t'was that loser Gern!

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            • Mr Bowcat
              • Dec 2016
              • 4627
              • Bob
              • London

              #21
              Good point, didn't read it properly while I was trying to unstick my keys.
              Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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              • spanner570
                • May 2009
                • 15482

                #22
                Sorry for the late response, chaps, but I only returned from beautiful N/W Scotland last night - but 10hrs on a coach is not much fun!

                Thanks for all your encouraging and complimentary posts. I appreciate them all.

                Cheers.
                Ron

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                • Guest

                  #23
                  Nice one Ron.
                  It is always nice when you try something new and it works.
                  Now try a German pea dot camo on a figure.
                  All the best.
                  Ralph.

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                  • spanner570
                    • May 2009
                    • 15482

                    #24
                    Originally posted by SWR
                    Nice one Ron.
                    It is always nice when you try something new and it works.
                    Now try a German pea dot camo on a figure.
                    All the best.
                    Ralph.
                    First off Ralph, it's good to have you back and showing us your excellent work!

                    Thanks for the nice post.

                    I might just try the 'Pea Pod' camo. on my Avatar 1/16 'Modified' Tamiya German Machine Gunner figure.......

                    Cheers.
                    Ron

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                    • colin m
                      Moderator
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 8806
                      • Colin
                      • Stafford, UK

                      #25
                      Very nice Ron. Is this a sort of digital camouflage, the sort of thing image recognising software has trouble with ?

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                      • Gern
                        • May 2009
                        • 9259

                        #26
                        Originally posted by colin m
                        Very nice Ron. Is this a sort of digital camouflage, the sort of thing image recognising software has trouble with ?
                        It's not only image recognising software that has trouble. Bob (Mr Bowcat) has the same problem!

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                        • spanner570
                          • May 2009
                          • 15482

                          #27
                          Sorry, Col' I don't understand your question....

                          ....but here's the finished model. No faffing about with this and that weathering, I simply gave the hull a thin wash of dk. Brown acrylics.

                          The 'trees and shrubs' are picked from the hedge row outside my place.

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                          Thanks for looking.

                          Ron
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                          • Guest

                            #28
                            Nice simple and effective.

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                            • Guest

                              #29
                              Originally posted by colin m
                              Very nice Ron. Is this a sort of digital camouflage, the sort of thing image recognising software has trouble with ?
                              I don't think so to be honest. That type of camouflage wasn't invented until much later, when image recognition software was developed. There weren't even any computers around at WWII unless we talk about the very first electro-mechanical computers that were built in order to speed up Enigma cracking in the UK. Imaging processing computers didn't arrive until the 80's, but they were pretty much useless until the late 90's - and those ones are pretty primitive compared to the things we're doing today.
                              I've worked with face recognition and I know how to fool such software, but it's a cat & mouse game because it's easy to fix, and a new method for fooling the software is made and so on and so forth.

                              But camouflage to optically fool people have been used since WWI and the disc camo is just one of the more "artistic" ones. How effective and widespread it was back in WWII I've got no clue. I think it was referred to as "ambush camouflage" or something like that?!
                              It is though very artistic and cool looking - and Ron has really pulled it off with just a brush!

                              p.s. Big ships had some sort of large scale camouflage early on to fool the operators that looked at aerial photographs and similar, or is this just my imagination? I'm not really into warships so I don't know their history...

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                              • Ian M
                                Administrator
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 18272
                                • Ian
                                • Falster, Denmark

                                #30
                                Correct Jens. This pattern was indeed called Ambush Camouflage and as Ron's pictures show, it was rather effective.
                                Some ships had deception camo. The Bow painted in a lighter colour, a false bow wave painted on the hull, Some even had the stern treated the same way. On a dark night, through a periscope the rather large war ship could be mistaken for a smaller ship.
                                Razzle camo was designed to confuse the watcher and make it hard to calculate range. Also had an effect of making identifying harder.

                                I digress.
                                Ron. Great job and a nice touch with the base for it. It shows it off very well.
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                                Bismarck

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