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  • Guest

    #16
    With so many cracking Diorama by yourself, Paul and others to look at I'm itching to start down that road too, but I'm trying not to get too far ahead of myself!

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    • rtfoe
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      • Apr 2018
      • 9094

      #17
      Cracking job on your first tank Andy, that mistake has turned out well I think...I believe in non comformity as not everything wears out the same so that massive oil leak makes it unique.

      The guys have given you some fantastic tips and one of the ways is to learn from scratch basics like making your own weathering stuff and how it works. This takes time but that's part of the hobby. If you want quick results then the latest AM stuff speeds it up a bit since they're all pre-mixed for the new generation of hobbyist.

      Cheers,
      Richard

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      • Guest

        #18
        Thanks Richard, I thought it was a decent fix myself but of course we don't all view things the same way.

        Where possible I'd like to make up my own products from what I have lying around or cheap craft supplies. The convenience and consistency of ready made is very tempting, especially for someone quite new to the hobby like me as it removes one potential source of errors, but I do enjoy doing things myself if I can.

        I guess the main sticking point for me is that after spending so much time building and painting a model I don't want to ruin it at the final hurdle with a failed experiment. I suppose I should be looking for a cheap easy build kit or two to use as test mules, or maybe I'll raid my sons toy box. He hates throwing anything away so I'm sure he'll have a few plastic vehicles I can practice with.

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        • yak face
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          • Jun 2009
          • 13842
          • Tony
          • Sheffield

          #19
          Looks great to me andy , perfectly weathered as far as my tastes go. I suppose it comes from being an aircraft builder but i dont like to see excessive weathering , i know these vehicles got covered in all sorts of crap but its nice to see the model underneath sometimes! Cheers tony

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          • Dave Ward
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            • Apr 2018
            • 10549

            #20
            Andy,
            sounds like a good plan.................but are they the same scale? Working in 1/72 is a whole different ballgame to 1/35! Hunting grounds for cheap models - charity shops - ebay - amazon - retailers 'specials'. Tamiya & Italeri tend to be the cheapest, with Academy third. These are generally well fitting kits ( Tamiya best ), but may be simplified, or inaccurate - ideal things to experiment on. I have a trial 1/48 Bf-109 that is either harlequin, or piebald, depending on your point of view!
            Dave

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            • Guest

              #21
              Thanks Tony. I look at the heavy weathering as another string to my bow. Once I know how to make a reasonable stab at it I can choose to add it or not. Or vary the amount of it.

              Ah yes Dave, I see your point. 1/35 levels of mud & dust would probably bury a little 1/72. Something else to throw into the mix!

              I'm beginning to see why many tend to concentrate on one genre or scale.

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              • Guest

                #22
                We have a willing victim volunteer :smiling5:

                [ATTACH]353973[/ATTACH]

                Not massively out of scale for 1/35 (except for the seat!) so should be okay for a bit of practice. Currently searching for the turret.

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                • papa 695
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                  • May 2011
                  • 22771

                  #23
                  Great work Andy

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                  • Jim R
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                    • Apr 2018
                    • 15733
                    • Jim
                    • Shropshire

                    #24
                    Hi Andy
                    That is a great model so you should be pleased. Very sound advice from the guys. I fully understand the thought "I'll leave well alone incase I c*** it up!"
                    One thing I do is keep a book of ideas. When I started modelling about 9 years ago someone suggested keeping an 'ideas' book. When I read a blog with an idea which I think is interesting I make a note of it. When I try something new I note down what I do and how it turned out. This has now grown into 2 A4 folders which I have had to split into sections to keep it manageable. Now I appreciate it is a bit nerdy and won't suit everyone but I now have a very useful modelling book which is very appropriate for me 'cause I wrote it :smiling:
                    Keep enjoying yourself - that is really all that matters.
                    Jim

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                    • Guest

                      #25
                      Thanks Jim. I do like the sound of your ideas book, although knowing me I'll probably do something similar in digital format.

                      My poor old brain can only handle so much information so as I see new tips or think of new ideas the old ones fall out the back to make room! :smiling5: So a documented record would be perfect for me.

                      And I wouldn't call it nerdy. I have a folder on my PC for all my modelling stuff, backed up on-site and off-site. Each build has it's own folder, listed in chronological order, containing all of the pictures, any research material and notes of when & where I purchased each kit and how much it cost. Start and finish dates, plus any notable techniques or products I used. I even have an .xls file listing all my paints. Now that's nerdy! :nerd:

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                      • spanner570
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                        • May 2009
                        • 15428

                        #26
                        I like that a lot Andy.
                        Just the right amount of subtle weathering.
                        Don't get carried away with all the stuff supposedly required for any heavy weathering of the subject. Dig up some real mud! And keep in mind, not all AFV's need to the gunged up to hell and back.

                        Top work.
                        Ron

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                        • Steve Jones
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 6615

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Jim R
                          Hi Andy
                          That is a great model so you should be pleased. Very sound advice from the guys. I fully understand the thought "I'll leave well alone incase I c*** it up!"
                          One thing I do is keep a book of ideas. When I started modelling about 9 years ago someone suggested keeping an 'ideas' book. When I read a blog with an idea which I think is interesting I make a note of it. When I try something new I note down what I do and how it turned out. This has now grown into 2 A4 folders which I have had to split into sections to keep it manageable. Now I appreciate it is a bit nerdy and won't suit everyone but I now have a very useful modelling book which is very appropriate for me 'cause I wrote it :smiling:
                          Keep enjoying yourself - that is really all that matters.
                          Jim
                          Publish it Jim then you can have a model room on the beach in Bermuda looking out across the vista while some batheing beauties' sand down the seam lines and get rid of the flash for you on your latest build.

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                          • stillp
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                            • Nov 2016
                            • 8096
                            • Pete
                            • Rugby

                            #28
                            Oh, come on, where would be the fun in that?
                            Pete

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                            • Jim R
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                              • Apr 2018
                              • 15733
                              • Jim
                              • Shropshire

                              #29
                              Steve
                              You really ought not to mention bathing beauties and the phrase 'flash for you' in the same post. The old ticker is not was it was and can't deal with that sort of excitement :smiling: :rolling:
                              jim

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                              • Guest

                                #30
                                Originally posted by spanner570
                                I like that a lot Andy.
                                Just the right amount of subtle weathering.
                                Don't get carried away with all the stuff supposedly required for any heavy weathering of the subject. Dig up some real mud! And keep in mind, not all AFV's need to the gunged up to hell and back.

                                Top work.
                                Ron
                                Thanks Ron.

                                We have around half a tonne of builders sand left over from our extension so I grabbed a bit of that this morning. Mixed it with some PVA and brown paint, and went to town on a test piece. It looked pretty convincing I must say, and flicking it on with a stiff brush gave a nice splatter effect too.

                                I now have the most heavily weathered milk carton in the country :smiling5:

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