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  • Mini Me
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    • Jun 2018
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    #16
    Thanks for sharing those Chris.....was interesting to see all the different variants of this little light tank. :thumb2:
    Rick H.

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    • Steve-the-Duck
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      • Jul 2020
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      • Chris
      • Medway Towns

      #17
      Originally posted by Mini Me
      Thanks for sharing those Chris.....was interesting to see all the different variants of this little light tank. :thumb2:
      Rick H.
      Think i mentioned above somewhere, I plan on doing two more - the long-track base version, when I can find a picture of the rear end, and the forerunner MkV with smaller turret, when I can find a rear view of that too. Time to be contacting Bovington, when they're fully working again...
      Sub variants l'm not doing are the German gun carrier conversions. Tho', there is an artillery command job that looks interesting... No no no!

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      • Steve-the-Duck
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        • Jul 2020
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        • Chris
        • Medway Towns

        #18
        And now, by way of a compare and contrast, as we were discussing above:
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        The Scorpion is, if I remember correctly, from the Sloppy Jalopy 28mm vehicle range. They do a number of cold war vehicles, and a rather nice seventies transit van. I've yet to justify buying their Chieftan, other than to do the Berlin scheme
        The only added details are the wing mirrors. Not keen on my hand painted number plate but, there you go
        I really only got this to fight the M-1 Giant robot in support of UNIT...

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        • Mini Me
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          • Jun 2018
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          #19
          A Chieftan might be a nice add to the "group" Chris.........if I'm guessing correctly these models must be around 1-76 or 72nd scale? or would they be smaller?.....they are very nicely detailed and painted. Rick H.

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          • Steve-the-Duck
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            • Jul 2020
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            • Chris
            • Medway Towns

            #20
            Originally posted by Mini Me
            A Chieftan might be a nice add to the "group" Chris.........if I'm guessing correctly these models must be around 1-76 or 72nd scale? or would they be smaller?.....they are very nicely detailed and painted. Rick H.
            These are 28mm, so they're about a third to half-ish as big again as 1/72. I must remember to put a coin for scale in the pics...

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            • Mini Me
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              • Jun 2018
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              #21
              The reason I ask Chris is that I model in 1-87 scale which is roughly 3.5mm to the scale foot. Is that anywhere close? Rick H.

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              • Steve-the-Duck
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                • Jul 2020
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                • Chris
                • Medway Towns

                #22
                Originally posted by Mini Me
                The reason I ask Chris is that I model in 1-87 scale which is roughly 3.5mm to the scale foot. Is that anywhere close? Rick H.
                Here's a couple of pictures that might give you a better idea
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                Now, 28mm, as a wargaming scale is kind of vague in its' equivalences. Many quote it as nominally 1/56th for comparison purposes, but there's a spread from 1/48th to 1/60th. Check out the thread on my completed 28mm Bren Gun carrier. So, above we have the compare and contrast: the back row is my 28mm BEF Matilda II (MkII?) and my MkVI early. In front are an ancient Airfix Matilda II and a solid resin MkVIC, both in 1/76th ish.
                So, 1/87th is going to be even smaller. I recently had some 'modern' German Roco Minitanks Marders (bought when there were still two Germanies!) up on eBay, so I know how small that stuff is. There are a couple of builders in that scale on here and I'm always impressed by the work that goes into them
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                And now, the vagaries of scale within 28mm. To the rear, my Warlord Morris CS8 15CWT light truck, in front the Perrys Morris CS8 Radio van. Both nominally the same scale
                Over on my thread of my 28mm A13 Cruiser tanks, I've got five vehicles from three manufacturers, and they're all exactly the same size!

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                • Mini Me
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                  • Jun 2018
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                  #23
                  Chris, I had no idea that there was such a variance in scale within the wargaming manufacturers. It would seem that scale fidelity is of secondary consideration when it comes to game figures and vehicles. Rick H.

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                  • JR
                    • May 2015
                    • 18273

                    #24
                    Great work Chris, and so small as well .

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                    • Steve-the-Duck
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                      • Jul 2020
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                      • Chris
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mini Me
                      Chris, I had no idea that there was such a variance in scale within the wargaming manufacturers. It would seem that scale fidelity is of secondary consideration when it comes to game figures and vehicles. Rick H.
                      Consider this. What is now called 28mm used to be 25mm. 28mm is often quoted as being 'foot to eye' whereas 25mm used to be the height of the figure!
                      It gets more complicated when you consider, especially with WWII stuff you have 'realistic' proportions from manufacturers like Perrys and 'heroic' proportions from manufacturers like Warlord. Check the differences between the two driver figures in the Morrises
                      Still, it's kind of like saying, can you put a 1/32 figure in a 1/35 diorama? 'Have you met my mate? 'E's rilly tall!'

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                      • Mini Me
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                        • Jun 2018
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                        #26
                        Well, all things considered, people do range in height and build so some of that could be expected. But a Morris is a Morris and they are all pretty much the same size no matter what. If one is willing to overlook that one small detail and is judicious in placement of these models I think they have great potential. Rick H.

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                        • Steve-the-Duck
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                          • Jul 2020
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                          • Chris
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mini Me
                          Well, all things considered, people do range in height and build so some of that could be expected. But a Morris is a Morris and they are all pretty much the same size no matter what. If one is willing to overlook that one small detail and is judicious in placement of these models I think they have great potential. Rick H.
                          That's why the two Morisses should actually be the other way round in the picture, then no-one would ever know!
                          'Dougal, these are SMALL, but THOSE are far away!'

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                          • Tim Marlow
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                            • Apr 2018
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                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #28
                            The biggest issue with different sized figures (of the same scale) is that the sculptors tend to make the weapons and equipment in ratio to the figure sculpt rather than to the scale they are working. Old Tall Hans will also carry the largest MG 42 in the entire platoon! He therefore looks oversized. If the gun he carried was the same size as Tiny Erwin’s then he really would look tall!

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                            • Steve-the-Duck
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                              • Jul 2020
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                              • Chris
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                              #29
                              I look at big chunky Bren guns and wire-thin Boyes AT rifles and go, BEF that size, 8th Army that.
                              If you look closely at the Seaforths in my completed BEF figures thread you'll see a small, kneeling Bren gunner, 'cos he's a Perry as I had no-one else bare legged!
                              Yeah, we wargamer -ish types can get away with a lot

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                              • Tim Marlow
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                                • Apr 2018
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                                • Tim
                                • Somerset UK

                                #30
                                Yep, all gamers want to know is “ how many dice for this gun”.....LOL...

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