Armor affects on halftrack

[Guest]

Hi Joe,

I tried to simulate a knocked out vehicle you could try something similar. I have attached a pic for you to have a look and hopefully it might give you some ideas.
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I like this a lot. Thankyou for the picture..it lets me visualize what I want to do. I think overall I'll incorporate that with some kind of bazooka damage above the wheel around the engine. When I start working on it I'll send some picture so you can see how it's coming along

[scottie3158]

I like this a lot. Thankyou for the picture..it lets me visualize what I want to do. I think overall I'll incorporate that with some kind of bazooka damage above the wheel around the engine. When I start working on it I'll send some picture so you can see how it's coming along

Joe,

Glad it helps, I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

[JR]

Joe .
Always a great favorite of mine showing a battled damaged vehicle. Check out Google using that title and WW2 .
Of course you you could resort to FIRE ! See my attached photo!
John .
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[Guest]

I think overall I'll incorporate that with some kind of bazooka damage above the wheel around the engine.

The Bazooka fired a HEAT (high-explosive, anti-tank) round, and when those hit armour plate they tend to leave just a small hole — as in the thickness of a finger or so — with scorch marks around it. Take a look at this Tiger II:



The small holes in the front plate, between the big ones, are probably from Bazooka hits (the big ones look like 75–76 mm rounds to me).

On a lightly armoured vehicle like an Sd.Kfz. 251, it wouldn’t be much different, though a hit near the wheel would probably also rip off the mudguard, or at least seriously bend it out of shape, as that was only sheet steel and a Bazooka round explodes when it hits something. It is likely to start a fire as well, given that a side-on hit near the wheel probably goes into the engine, may damage fuel lines, etc. Fires on models, though, are most easily represented by painting the model as having rusted in the whole area affected by the fire. If rubber tyres are in a fire, they disintegrate into a whitish powder, so the 251 would probably have a bare wheel rim on at least one side, and may have sagged through it suspension on that side too because fire weakens springs.

[Guest]

The Bazooka fired a HEAT (high-explosive, anti-tank) round, and when those hit armour plate they tend to leave just a small hole — as in the thickness of a finger or so — with scorch marks around it. Take a look at this Tiger II:



The small holes in the front plate, between the big ones, are probably from Bazooka hits (the big ones look like 75–76 mm rounds to me).

On a lightly armoured vehicle like an Sd.Kfz. 251, it wouldn’t be much different, though a hit near the wheel would probably also rip off the mudguard, or at least seriously bend it out of shape, as that was only sheet steel and a Bazooka round explodes when it hits something. It is likely to start a fire as well, given that a side-on hit near the wheel probably goes into the engine, may damage fuel lines, etc. Fires on models, though, are most easily represented by painting the model as having rusted in the whole area affected by the fire. If rubber tyres are in a fire, they disintegrate into a whitish powder, so the 251 would probably have a bare wheel rim on at least one side, and may have sagged through it suspension on that side too because fire weakens springs.

Very useful information, thankyou...I'll be sure to take all of that into practice as I'm working on it
-Joe

[Wouter]

Well, doing burnt out or demolished vehicle can be fun and isn't that hard really. Try to look at real life photographs and just try it out. Don't be afraid I'd say. Impact marks I tend to do by heating a drill bit and push it into the plastic, repeat if necessary. And spare etch and plasticard pieces for the inside can simulate a wrecked interior for instance.

Small example of a burnt out T-62 I did a couple of years
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I was quite afraid at first but I just went on as I tried, if I failed I failed, luckily it was alright. Most importantly: have fun trying to ^^

Cheers

[Guest]

Okay you guys have all given very useful information. Mind you I'm relatively new at modeling and any effects on the vehicles. Regarding the holes of where any type of round hit the vehicle, how would I do that. Drill? Heated pin? I have no knowledge of how to do it
-Thankyou, Joe

[Guest]

Well, doing burnt out or demolished vehicle can be fun and isn't that hard really. Try to look at real life photographs and just try it out. Don't be afraid I'd say. Impact marks I tend to do by heating a drill bit and push it into the plastic, repeat if necessary. And spare etch and plasticard pieces for the inside can simulate a wrecked interior for instance.

Small example of a burnt out T-62 I did a couple of years
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I was quite afraid at first but I just went on as I tried, if I failed I failed, luckily it was alright. Most importantly: have fun trying to ^^

Cheers

what you said is exactly what I was wondering regarding how to make the holes and such. Thankyou
-Joe

[Guest]

Regarding the holes of where any type of round hit the vehicle, how would I do that. Drill? Heated pin? I have no knowledge of how to do it

I’d probably drill a hole with small drill, then make the edges a bit more ragged with the tip of a knife. Pushing a heated pin through plastic tends to pull melted plastic with it, requiring at least as much cleaning up if the model isn’t to look like it’s plastic that a heated pin was pushed through