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  • BattleshipBob
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    • Apr 2018
    • 6792
    • Bob
    • Cardiff

    #1

    Interior colour of a StuG

    After opening a large can of worms reference the correct interior colours for a StuG, and looking at pictures of restored and models of StuG's, I very quickly found there is a very large variation and of course opinions

    So I messaged my good friend Wolfgang Zimmerman who co authored the two vol set on the StuG (a cracking read) and IS Mr StuG! In the past he has been very incredibly generous and yet again he come up trumps

    Just got in (not a cat out) and to a email from Wolfgang, who said that as there are only a few pictures of un-restored vehicles and none in colour from the war its a very difficult subject, but he has sent me a shed load of pictures

    Including a lot of pictures from a un restored StuG from Fort Benning in the US, excellent ones of radios, brackets, gun breeches, ammo racks and driver positions, one happy bunny

    He echoed what Steve Jones said, as long as its not pink or orange you will not be far wrong lol

    Once i have saved them i will have a good look and report back

    Hope this will be of interest

    bob
  • BattleshipBob
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    • Apr 2018
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    • Bob
    • Cardiff

    #2
    As I have no energy at all and even find walking a problem, I have been looking at the photos sent to me very kindly by Wolfgang Zimmerman, co author of the two Vol set on the Stug

    When i emailed History Facts in Switzerland, i was not excepting much but to my surprise Peter Muller the other author replied then Wolfgang, who has been fantastic!! So its not just me who loves StuG's

    First the radio and support brackets, as you can see the brackets are a darker grey (do not think they are black?) than the radios, seen a few models with Ivory brackets

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    from a un-restored StuG
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    Gun and breech, seen a few painted green but
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    Interesting picture of a removed L24 gun out of a Ausf E, and the border between Red primer and ivory!
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    Interior is a issue, this a un-restored StuG, you can see the gearbox, steering, brakes, vent pipes and steering levers are red oxide primer

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    It appears that everything was red oxide then Ivory over the top leaving the floor in red primer, some brackets were red primer but others especially electrical were grey of some form

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    Many ammo bins were left in red primer, but i have one picture of a bin in ivory???
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    So there you have it clear as mud lol

    I will paint mine red primer everywhere, then ivory over the side of the hull and superstructure

    finally a picture from the Alkett factory of Ausf E's being made

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    Many. many thanks to Wolfgang for his generous help, all the above photos are for discussion only

    Please remember this is only MY opinion, feel free to make your own mind, hope this helps, it certainty does for me

    cheers bob

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    • Guest

      #3
      Hi Bob great photos, sorry to hear you're not too good yourself.
      Pete :thumb2:

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      • BattleshipBob
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        • Apr 2018
        • 6792
        • Bob
        • Cardiff

        #4
        Thanks Pete, delighted to see you back!!

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        • boatman
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          • Nov 2018
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          • christopher
          • NORFOLK UK

          #5
          HI Bob lookin through the photos it was intrestin to see the ackual drivein postion with all the drive implements eg. levers to steer right or left an the accelerator an brake pedals they must have been small people them driver to sqezze into such a small compartment as when I was in bovington museum all you see on the tanks are the outside an no interior so your pics were very intrestin for me an hopefully to others great stuff
          chris

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          • BattleshipBob
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            • Apr 2018
            • 6792
            • Bob
            • Cardiff

            #6
            Hi Chris

            Thanks for actually replying!

            If you go on youtube and look for world of tanks or the chieftain. Theres a load of vids by a x US tanker, in them he gives you a tour outside then inside a load of armour. The StuG one is poor but he does a Panzer 111, Panther, T34, Sherman etc, etc. which gives you a very good idea of how cramped many vehicles were! Only made my admiration of all tankers even more!

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            • boatman
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              • Nov 2018
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              • christopher
              • NORFOLK UK

              #7
              Originally posted by Bobthestug
              Hi Chris

              Thanks for actually replying!

              If you go on youtube and look for world of tanks or the chieftain. Theres a load of vids by a x US tanker, in them he gives you a tour outside then inside a load of armour. The StuG one is poor but he does a Panzer 111, Panther, T34, Sherman etc, etc. which gives you a very good idea of how cramped many vehicles were! Only made my admiration of all tankers even more!
              THANKS Bob i'll have a look at u tube cheers
              chris

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              • minitnkr
                Charter Rabble member
                • Apr 2018
                • 7537
                • Paul
                • Dayton, OH USA

                #8
                Great pics. Thanks for sharing. PaulE

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                • JR
                  • May 2015
                  • 18273

                  #9
                  As Paul has said great photos.
                  How very kinds of those two gents to reply, and with so much information. Just shows how a interest knows no bounds.
                  Hope you sort this feeling of no energy is sorted out soon Bob.

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Hi Bob.
                    There are 13 pictures and in 9 of them there looks to be a lot of rust,so on these numbers alone I would say the interior would be a rust colour :hungry:.

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                    • scottie3158
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                      • Apr 2018
                      • 14201
                      • Paul
                      • Holbeach

                      #11
                      Bob,
                      Great photos with lots of food for thought. Trust you are feeling better mate.

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                      • Mr Bowcat
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                        • Dec 2016
                        • 4600
                        • Bob
                        • London

                        #12
                        My dad used to drive a Centurion. He says that the driver really can't see very much at all and relies mainly on commands from the Commander.
                        Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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                        • Fernando N
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                          • Apr 2018
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                          #13
                          Thanks for sharing Bob, hope you are feeling better now.

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                          • BattleshipBob
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                            • Apr 2018
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                            • Bob
                            • Cardiff

                            #14
                            Originally posted by minitnkr
                            Great pics. Thanks for sharing. PaulE
                            Most welcome Paul

                            Originally posted by John Race
                            As Paul has said great photos.
                            How very kinds of those two gents to reply, and with so much information. Just shows how a interest knows no bounds.
                            Hope you sort this feeling of no energy is sorted out soon Bob.
                            Hi John, my problems tend to last for a few days then improve then return and on and on! No cure

                            Yes both Peter and Wolfgang are great, i have asked a good few questions and every time they have helped me!

                            Originally posted by SWR
                            Hi Bob.
                            There are 13 pictures and in 9 of them there looks to be a lot of rust,so on these numbers alone I would say the interior would be a rust colour :hungry:.
                            Bugger that simple Ralph lol

                            Hi Bob, totally agree been in a early Leopard and would not like to do a three point turn lol
                            Originally posted by Fernando N
                            Thanks for sharing Bob, hope you are feeling better now.
                            Many thanks, Fernando

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                            • Steve Jones
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 6615

                              #15
                              Thanks for everything you did for me Bob. Great photos :thumb2: :thumb2: :thumb2: :thumb2: :thumb2: :thumb2:

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