Panzer Kampfwagen 11,Ausf.F/G

[Guest]

Moni, normally I wouldn't like to see such harsh weathering on a German tank. And that's for 2 reasons - firstly, a tank only exists to protect it's crew & so they'd make sure their vehicle remained in good condition. Something that's especially true of German units.


Second, the Panzer II was used at a time of German victories, so the idea of a ' fighting retreat ' doesn't quite work for me.


But! Having said that, I still love what you've done here! Your style of weathering gives the model a richness of colour & tone that brings it to life.

[monica]

Moni, can i be ultra, ultra critical ? (and it is very ultra

your most welcome to,say and surges,what you are thinking Steve,

Moni, normally I wouldn't like to see such harsh weathering on a German tank. And that's for 2 reasons - firstly, a tank only exists to protect it's crew & so they'd make sure their vehicle remained in good condition. Something that's especially true of German units.
Second, the Panzer II was used at a time of German victories, so the idea of a ' fighting retreat ' doesn't quite work for me.


But! Having said that, I still love what you've done here! Your style of weathering gives the model a richness of colour & tone that brings it to life.

I do full understand what you getting at Patrick,and real I,did not mean for it to look so harsh,


think the colors used ,have been maybe not the right choice, for this one,


maybe you are able to help with this,did they retreat from El-Alamein ? or were push back into libya,


because that's what I,m trying to show,


I will go over the red/brown,with a gray again ,leave only around the edges,as for some reason it dose over power with the sand colors,


but I did try to get the richness of the desert color,

[monica]

ok I do totally agree with you Patrick,and also what you were going to say Steve,


so I did change the color again,


To an over all,more just sun bleached,look,but I do still like the smoke stains around the grills,


as it a diesel engine working hard in hot sun so will smoke a lot,well That,s how I see it


real should of lefted it as was with a pin line of dark brown,oh well we do live and lean,


hope that you do like this look better,

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[Steve Brodie]

OK; Just a couple of small point. The tank is in a very heavy used state, but the camouflage netting on the back looks brand spanking new, wouldn’t that show signs of wear and tear as well, unless the crew found a brand new unpacked one somewhere. Would the movement of the tank over the ground, knock of the piles of sand on the barrel and the sand on the tracks lower wheels just doesn’t seem to sit right, seeing as the tank is not 'down in the sand'.


HOWEVER


The juxtaposition of all the elements is very nice and the Sphinx/Pharaoh is brilliant.


Sorry

[Steve Brodie]

ok I do totally agree with you Patrick,and also what you were going to say Steve,
so I did change the color again,


To an over all,more just sun bleached,look,but I do still like the smoke stains around the grills,


as it a diesel engine working hard in hot sun so will smoke a lot,well That,s how I see it


real should of lefted it as was with a pin line of dark brown,oh well we do live and lean,


hope that you do like this look better,

That looks ace now Moni. At the end of the day modelling is like art, very subjective to the viewer.

[monica]

OK; Just a couple of small point. The tank is in a very heavy used state, but the camouflage netting on the back looks brand spanking new, wouldn’t that show signs of wear and tear as well, unless the crew found a brand new unpacked one somewhere. Would the movement of the tank over the ground, knock of the piles of sand on the barrel and the sand on the tracks lower wheels just doesn’t seem to sit right, seeing as the tank is not 'down in the sand'.
HOWEVER


The juxtaposition of all the elements is very nice and the Sphinx/Pharaoh is brilliant.


Sorry

oh ouch lol, just joking only messing with you,


this is the very reason we post and say comments most welcome, .........


ok in my defense ,


the camo net not weathered,let,glue was drying


with how the tank is in place with the men,Im still not sure if I,m having the turret facing backwards to cover them as there moving forwards,?


and I,do know what you mean as she is sitting high,that will be bebed in when I,do place it in,build up the ground around the track,


one of the very last things I do,before placing the men


very right with the sand on the barrel don,t know what i was thinking lol,


so glad that you do like the rest,


remember unfinished dio

[monica]

That looks ace now Moni. At the end of the day modelling is like art, very subjective to the viewer.

yes yes it is ,Steve,and some times we tend to get a bit lost and carried away with what were doing,


that's what COMMENTS are for to bring you back in to the zone,not running off with what ever gets in your head,so


thank you for pulling me back in line,

[Steve Brodie]

Moni, you don't need pulling back in line , i need to read and digest, didn't realise the dio was still in a development stage, sowwy . To be honest, every time i see you are up to 'something' I tag along cause i know it's going to good .


Think I might have been venting after trying to build the engine on a 1/35 motorcycle for a build review on Armourama, to many small parts, does look good(ish) though

[monica]

ta for the kind words Steve,much appreciated, always nice to have you along on a build,

Think I might have been venting after trying to build the engine on a 1/35 motorcycle for a build review on Armourama, to many small parts, does look good(ish) though

so were is this beastly that's making your life hard with fiddly bits and bobs on it,


I have not seen it ,some think I have missed,?

[Steve Brodie]

Not on here yet as a build review for a website. Once up on that site will post here.

[monica]

cool will look forward to seeing it,some think I,could never do as I,just don't understand motors and whats what,with them,

[monica]

well have the placement of the tank done,waiting for glue to dry and will need a little touch up done,


have started the 5 figures,waiting for paint to dry,

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[Steve Brodie]

well have the placement of the tank done,waiting for glue to dry and will need a little touch up done,
have started the 5 figures,waiting for paint to dry,

Interesting, so is that white glue holding the tank to the base and then painted, never seen that approach before.

[Steve Brodie]

cool will look forward to seeing it,some think I,could never do as I,just don't understand motors and whats what,with them,

Shhhh .............. dont tell anyone


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Actual size ( photo shows it still a bit to big)


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[Snowman]

Smashing vision with the base design, Monica!!