And In The Gates...... It's A Whippet

[Guest]

Thanks Patrick
I'm thinking of painting them all and giving weathering to a point even though they hidden but to know they are there and not doing seems pointless ( such a weath of derail ) to waste


What you think

That all depends on the time you're happy to spend on it. Personally I'd do it because I'm a firm believer in " even though it's not visible, I know it's there" philosophy

[Robert1968]

That all depends on the time you're happy to spend on it. Personally I'd do it because I'm a firm believer in " even though it's not visible, I know it's there" philosophy

I'm with your Phil ( thought your Patrick!! :P

[takeslousyphotos]

You could always build it:


A) UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THE FACTORY


B) UNDERGOING MAINTENANCE


C) HAVING TAKEN A "RIGHT WALLOPING" FROM GERMAN ARTILLERY.


All three would give to the opportunity to have the running gear on show.......... Or could you build it with at least one of the side frames detachable ?

[Robert1968]

You could always build it:
A) UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THE FACTORY


B) UNDERGOING MAINTENANCE


C) HAVING TAKEN A "RIGHT WALLOPING" FROM GERMAN ARTILLERY.


All three would give to the opportunity to have the running gear on show.......... Or could you build it with at least one of the side frames detachable ?

Your spot on the money with the thoughts Peter.


I'm a bit concerned at the first suggestion ( A ) as I think it's going he first to be hard to remove a panel it hour destroying a lot of surface detail,and my research has not found any cutaway diagrams of a whippet so unsure what's underneath panels ( no Haynes manual to hand


(B ) is similar to the first part


( C ) sounds a little easier as I could fabricate the odd bend etc


Thinking cap on and a wee shot of malt for the ideas to think out


Cheers


Robert

[Guest]

Ah but the beauty of a lack of information is that no-one can say you're wrong Robert!


I like Peter's maintenance idea. Perhaps with some careful scribing you could open up a panel? If it was one that had taken a shell hit, any damage would be explainable.


Here's a couple of pics I found showing some detail








I don't think that there's much beneath the exterior skin other than the tracks & wheels.

[takeslousyphotos]

Ah but the beauty of a lack of information is that no-one can say you're wrong Robert!
I like Peter's maintenance idea. Perhaps with some careful scribing you could open up a panel? If it was one that had taken a shell hit, any damage would be explainable.


Here's a couple of pics I found showing some detail


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I don't think that there's much beneath the exterior skin other than the tracks & wheels.

"Ah but the beauty of a lack of information is that no-one can say you're wrong Robert! " ................... Someone somewhere will

[Robert1968]

Now now Lauries not here anymore and I don't want to upset any mods


So,back to the Panzer 4 and it's base time as I need to get that sorted ( prob get grief for not creating that right either!!


Oh well it's my model


Cheers


Robert

[Robert1968]

Ah but the beauty of a lack of information is that no-one can say you're wrong Robert!
I like Peter's maintenance idea. Perhaps with some careful scribing you could open up a panel? If it was one that had taken a shell hit, any damage would be explainable.


Here's a couple of pics I found showing some detail


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I don't think that there's much beneath the exterior skin other than the tracks & wheels.

I did a bit of study on all the ref pics I have including bovies example and I can't seem to find any panels that in effect would come off, so I'm assuming that the whole side panel would have to be removed to access the wheels/ running gear, unless the track could be removed? The only thing I found was an access panel by the drive sprocket obviously to oil/grease etc.


I knows the whippets design of side skirts took away the debris from the running gear, prob sim to the Matilda of the late 30s? So removing a section of panel seems difficult at present to fathom out ( even though I'm not going to get too much grief for trying )

[Robert1968]

"Ah but the beauty of a lack of information is that no-one can say you're wrong Robert! " ................... Someone somewhere will

True all but true

[Guest]

Coming along well.

[Robert1968]

This a good photo of the running gear access panels I found but you know I think they built them like ships of the time ( blooming great huge pieces of steel and riveted the whole thing together ( no Tamiya cement them days eh

[takeslousyphotos]

[ATTACH]140905[/ATTACH] This a good photo of the running gear access panels I found but you know I think they built them like ships of the time ( blooming great huge pieces of steel and riveted the whole thing together ( no Tamiya cement them days eh

That's why they were called "Landships" and their names all prefixed with HMSL .........

[Robert1968]

Well I have been doing some more thinking on the whippet build, how to display at a later time. Well Peter mentioned a factory ( just out sort of look/ maintenance.


Unfortunately I'm scarce on factory black and white photos nor this happening but here's my idea


What if I built a concrete inspection pit with a few workmen underneath. I could do it with the tracks half off( laying the tracks on etc ( this way it would show the bottom rollers, top return rollers etc, the odd workman tightening a bolt or something and this way I could give the whippet a clean look but weathered look at the same time.


Because as Peter said quite rightly they were rivited sheets of steel like a ship ( land ships ) there are access panels on the side skirts that are bolted on so can be removed for maintenance.


I think my skills could do a dio of some description but I may have to do some more research first


Any and all help would be appreciated.

[Guest]

Now that sounds like a cracking idea! There are various workshop tool sets available in 1/35, as well as figures doing maintenance. Although they're WWII vintage, I'm sure that they'd still work in your dio Robert.

[takeslousyphotos]

Here you go Robert........ There are lods of photos on google just search WW1 TANK FACTORY