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    Takom King Tiger w. Henschel Tur. 505 zimmerit & interior 1/35

    I know I said I was going to wait with this one until I'd finished painting a few others but since my dedicated paint area isn't done yet - and I was just going to "check the sprues" yesterday, I somehow accidentally started to snip a few things off and before you knew it I was sitting there going at the lower hull!
    I only did some of the lower hull assembly before I put it down and built the engine instead. I've been looking forward to build the engine, and the interior, for a very long time and I don't mind having this model as something I take my time with and build a few things as and when I feel like it...
    I'm really keen on painting the engine to see how the new mig (Ammo of mig) paints look and feel so after I built the engine i primed it with my new One Shot black primer from mig. For some reason it didn't play well with my airbrush and it clogged up several times. Although my Ultra is a cheaper airbrush it's still a Harder & Steenbeck so it shouldn't have a problem with the mig primer, but that's just my opinion. I'll add a bit of thinner next time to see if that helps although it says on the bottle it doesn't need it.

    The kit has fantastic details and the over-all quality is superb, but I think Tamiya has a better plastic/polymer compound, purely based on how it feels to handle, cut and sand. It becomes more soft when applying cement than Tamiya plastic I think?
    Sprue Q had a distinctive part-line and even some minor flashing. This I didn't expect. Easy to fix though.
    I took some pictures as I put the first pieces in place but then I continued. I shall paint the engine tomorrow. I just have to decide what colours to use? The paint scheme by Mig Jimenez looks fantastic but whilst doing some research I've seen other colours on the Maybach HL230P30, although most of them were in Panthers and only one was in a King Tiger - and there's no guarantee those were the original colours. Often the whole engine was painted in cremeweiss and not dark gray. Some were also painted dark green. Such are life's little dilemmas
    The King Tiger I'm building is the Tiger Aufs.B, 1./s.H.Pz.Abt.505, no 101. Here's the paint scheme.



    I had planned to load it with brass shell casings but since it's a late 1945 model, most, if not all?, were made of steel. I might go for artistic freedom here though and just choose what looks best...?

    I've bought Friulmodel ATL-16 tracks for it as well since I'm keen on trying those out, but I might assemble the plastic tracks just to see the difference? I've only assembled Tamiya and Italeri tracks yet and the Takom ones might look realistic as they are? I do prefer "working" tracks though since they allow for more flexibility imho.

    Anyhow, here are some pictures of the first steps on what will probably be a lengthy build that will require constant painting in order to keep up with the interior and it's parts.



    I was happy that my lower hull wasn't bent as some others have been, but my upper hull is clearly bent out of shape. This should be easy to fix though.




    I don't like the text/serial number on the floor of the hull, but it'll be covered so I might let it slide for now... I should've taken care of it before adding parts... sigh.


    The interior of the lower hull was easy to assemble. Just take one step at a time and be patient and let the cement dry a bit before gluing on the next part.


    Here's the engine after assembly. It took almost two hours to build, but I like the result so far! It's going to be fun to paint it tomorrow




    Whilst painting the engine with primer I also put primer on two other tanks so I've got a lot to paint the coming week! I hope the issue with the airbrush was something temporary, otherwise I have to find out what the problem is? I suspect thinner is the solution though.

    After the engine is painted I'm going to focus on getting the paint area setup so it's easier to work with the models, but there's quite a bit to do so I'm going to try to talk the kids into helping me tomorrow! I'll think of a suitable bribe that could simplify the negotiation.
  • Guest

    #2
    Excellent start!
    I will be watching...

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    • papa 695
      Moderator
      • May 2011
      • 22770

      #3
      Nice start Jens, I've got the same kit to build for Patrick's King Tiger GB.

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      • Steve Brodie
        SMF Supporters
        • Sep 2014
        • 4652

        #4
        will be watching

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        • col68
          • Nov 2016
          • 1505

          #5
          I'm in jens.

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          • bazers
            • Oct 2013
            • 2611

            #6
            Engine is looking great.

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            • monica
              • Oct 2013
              • 15169

              #7
              real nice start ,Jens,like the detail to this,and the engine as well,

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              • Guest

                #8
                Very nice, the V12 Maybach has some nice detail. Can't wait for more.

                Have fun, John

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                • Guest

                  #9
                  Thanks for all of your kind comments!!!
                  It's a mammoth build for sure, but there's so much to research whilst building it and I've learned so much already just building a few bits and bobs!
                  One week ago I'd never heard about the Maybach HL230 P30 and now I've collected most of the available pictures on the internet! I've read about it on wikipedia and I've watched a few different engines in various states on YouTube in order to figure out where cables etc goes that aren't in the kit, and what the real colours were and how real weathering looks like.
                  Most of it is probably going to be out of my league, and also hidden when assembled, but I like to dig deeper to understand what I'm doing - and to understand how you guys can put together such amazing scale models, so it's a whole project just trying to figure out everything about the particular tank you are building!

                  Whilst waiting for paint I decided to build the turret basket. As much as I could before I had to start painting it. Some things will be virtually impossible to paint when assembled so this is a tank that needs constant painting I think...
                  I also discovered that the camera picks up almost microscopical blemishes that my naked eyes can't see so I'm going to take more pictures from now. Not to publish them all here because that'd be a bit extreme, but it gives you a chance to really look at some of the features and zoomed in too!



                  Lots of tiny parts...



                  Lots of really tiny parts!


                  And here's my first real complaint: The build instructions are not good at all. These 3D images are too dark and cluttered. Some steps required that I reverted to colour photos of the turret basked to work out where the parts went, and that's less than optimal if you ask me. If they had supplied a link where you could download a pdf of the build instruction then you could've zoomed in on the parts that were tricky to see, and by altering the contrast and the black/white levels in the pictures they could be clearer in some cases... This is an area where Tamiya has been superior so far. I don't know if you agree with me here but I'm finding some of these images hard to follow.



                  And this was as much as I could assemble before painting becomes impossible. You can also clearly see some minor blemishes on some parts that I couldn't see with my eyes. Also the way the cement makes all surfaces shiny doesn't exactly help seeing this either, but that's down to experience I guess? Which I don't have too much of yet... But I'm working on it and I'm learning loads by attempting this hard build!

                  It's not going fast this tank but that's not the point either. What's clear though is how fun it is and I will surely do more "full interior" builds after this one!

                  Happy tinkering all of you!

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Trekkie_John
                    Very nice, the V12 Maybach has some nice detail. Can't wait for more.

                    Have fun, John
                    Thanks!

                    Whilst researching the Maybach HL230 I noticed how little material it was between the cylinder sleeves... The German engineers were really skilled - but damn this engine must've been prone to overheating?
                    I'm trying to find good pictures of the engine to see where wires and such are connected so I can try to recreate that on my model, if possible? It would feel fantastic if I could add some extra details based on the real thing to really try to make this as good as I can.

                    A small box full of plastic bits and bobs can be very joyful I've discovered

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                    • tr1ckey66
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 3592

                      #11
                      Looking good Jens. Looks like a very comprehensive kit and with the extra detail this will be stunning.
                      Cheers
                      Paul

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                      • Guest

                        #12
                        Wow! Excellent work and excellent kit too!!

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          This kit is certainly not for the guy in a hurry. Perhaps I'm a bit too picky and thoroughly sand bits that are hidden as well, but a detailed kit it is!

                          Wasn't really up for a lengthy session this evening so I decided to start part of the gun assembly, later to be married to the turret basket I made last night. This was the fiddliest section so far - which required both putty and mending of a fudge on my part... (accidentally snagged a thin part on the sanding stick and it snapped! See picture below)

                          I managed to do steps 68-70, yes, three steps, in the better part of two hours! I even had to resort to cheating with CA glue to secure the MG 34 to the mount in the end.
                          I also managed to put a damn thumbprint on the barrel breach assembly whilst gluing up the machine gun mount... The downside of using cement so I have discovered
                          It'll scrape off the thumbprint tomorrow but I'd spent a lot of time making sure if was pristine. Bummer.

                          This kit is certainly worth the money if you look at how many hours of fun you have!
                          I've seen some people complain on YouTube where some models have been unnecessarily complex and that many parts could've been moulded together from start. I don't think I'm one of them.
                          Ok, there are limits and even this King Tiger have some parts that perhaps should've been moulded together - not because they are "unnecessarily" complex but because I think the end result would be better if they were moulded as one piece instead of three tiny bits. I do want this to look as good as possible in the end and it would be a shame if some parts are too cumbersome to assemble in perfect condition...?
                          So far I'm doing ok and I'm actually rather pleased with my work so far - even though i fudged a part...

                          Here's the start of the gun assembly from the breach side. Everything is made from sprue L, which is nice so you don't have to chase parts over several sprues!



                          Sadly the fit of the parts from sprue L isn't as good as the previous sprues I've assembled...
                          These parts are fairly big so it can't be user error I think? The parts are keyed so assembly can only be done one way.


                          Putty to the rescue! (pre-sanding picture)

                          And here's the fudge. Very small part that snapped before I even breathed... Luckily it cemented without a trace!


                          MG 34 that was rather tricky to assemble. If you buy this kit - which I can recommend even though I've just started - be careful during these steps and have good magnification and light at hand.


                          Steps 69, 69 and 70 took the better part of two hours. This kit will take some time to complete for sure



                          So far we've mostly had a miserable summer and I might just as well build models during the days, but I try to activate the kids as well so for time being this will continue as a evening/night activity.
                          Fantastic to pick up if you can't sleep! I just keep a tray with the instructions and tools next to the bed, and a box of all the sprues, so I can just grab them if I feel like being creative!

                          I've started to think about how to mount & display this tank and I think I will cut a mirror and glue it on top of the base. The upper hull and the turret (without the top) will be placed on stands. This way you can see more of the interior I hope. Subtle lighting will also help to display it. I hope it works in reality, but we'll see when time comes!

                          Thanks for all your kind comments! If you see something that doesn't look right, or something I've done poorly, please tell me so I can improve. Constructive critique is important and I personally think it's good, whereas some don't. I want to improve and learn so don't be afraid to tell me if something is wrong or weird!

                          Cheers

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                          • Guest

                            #14
                            Looking amazing so far.

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                            • Robert1968
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 3596

                              #15
                              I just came across this one and yes I'll be in to watch this till the end
                              Hope I'm not too late

                              Regards

                              Robert

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