AFV 1/35 SCALE STURMTIGER.

[SimonT]

I am rather partial to these beasts John

Have the AFV 1/48 version, 1/72 CMK conversion, the Tamiya 1/35 (which i don't even remember buying) and a 1/35 Italeri that I started a few years ago (which got put on hold when another build came along). Got a set of excellent Masterclub resin tracks for that when I finally get back to it

Have various books as well so if you need any info give me a shout and I will see what I can find

Think the Italeri came with some shells so let me know if you need some

Definitely count me in for this one :thumb2:

[Guest]

Excited! Can I buy a subscription to watch each episode? Maybe just stalk in delay from 10,000 miles away.

[Mini Me]

I did one of these a few years back when Herpa introduced theirs. Damned expensive even in 1/87 scale. I'm in for the show.
Rick H.

[papa 695]

Well if you don't mind I'll just sneak in at the back to watch this John. Looks like I've not missed much.

[rtfoe]

Oh dang it front row seats are gone...I'll bring my ladder and telescope.

Cheers,
Richard

[Steve Jones]

I'll hold the ladder Richard:smiling2:
Nice to see you have made a start on the Sturmtiger. There are pages upon pages of discussion material about the rights and wrongs of this AFV. I wish you all the best with this build and yes you have to do the disc camo scheme:smiling5:

[JR]

Afternoon.
Seems the tickets have gone well, ice creams to be served along with the Pims by our very own Steve "Rivit " Jones, in between holding Richards step ladder. Firstly thanks to Pete Low who has offered some shells very kind of him.:thumb2:

Simon...... Seat on the front row. Thanks for the offer of help, as you can see I'm ok for the shells but I might ask for help re the books .
Andrew........ You're more than welcome, from your distance there's a chance it will look pretty good .:smiling5:
Rick............. Hi ..... Some may remember I bought this for my Stalingrad Dio, but was quickly informed that it didn't exist then ! So moving on a couple of years it has now serviced.
Ian ...... Nice of you to join, the build has gone quite well and for me fast, the best bit will no doubt be Zimmerit and the damed camo which some members are looking forward too. Mr Jones in particluar :smiling4: so hang in for some fun.

Richard.........Greetings. as you can see Steve has offered to hold your steps l. I should check first that he is qualified :nerd:

Steve...........Hi ..... and thank you for acting as barman and general refreshments officer. Whats this about camo ! the Zimmerit will be bad enough.

Yesterday saw quite a lot of assembly, it went ok, apart from my first glaring error of putting half the suspension the wrong way round:smiling2::smiling2::smiling2: Its ok now, I do like the plastic used by AFV very forgiving. I managed to cut out some very thin section on the back deck, on two of them the join was wider than the part , but all survived.
There are some extremely small parts, the sprue can look like there is nothing on the end, but you can see a small part, the wing nuts are one example . I've not lost anything up to now as the apron has managed to catch two items that were launched by the tweezers.
Now for some photos. I do have one question relating to the barrel. When It goes together there are two halves to the inner section.These had studs on which fitted on to the barrel. There was only one way to fit. yet my results are different from the drawing On the drawing the two cut outs on the barrel are straight , where as mine are at an angle. The only way around this will to remove the one on the outer casing so the outer case lines up .
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The section above was fun, the lower edge that was so thin is at the bottom of the shot.
There are two colors used on the sprues, some have " late Strum Tiger printed on.
I shall build it as it comes, the only addition will be some pewter and the Fruill tracks.
Now I remember some one recently doing some home made Zimmerit, was it Ron If so could some one give me the link to the page.
Earlier on I looked at the rifling to the barrel,............... and put it down, going off now to PMMS to read what he said.
Thanks for looking in, help would be appreciated on the points I have mentioned and any other pit falls that I may encounter.
I can see why I stick mainly to Russian :smirk:
John.

[Steve Jones]

How accurate do you want to be with the Zim? The reason I ask was the first Sturmtiger (prototye) and maybe one or two others didnt have it and I wasnt sure if you had decided which Sturmtiger you were building (Early or Late)

The prototype had earlier rubber-rimmed wheels, bolted-on nose armor, 20 gas openings in the muzzle, a straight-cut barrel sheath with no projections, 700mm idlers, early tracks and Feifel air cleaners.

Sturmtigers were built from recycled Tiger I hulls with steel wheels. If the original Tiger hull had zimmerit on it then it remained. The first 12 production Sturmtiger were built between August 13th to Sept 21st 1944. After Sept 9th 1944 no Zim was added to the Tiger hull if it was missing. The final 5 production model Sturmtigers were built in Dec. 1944. There was no Zim on the main structure, just the hull.

Also beware some pictures will show Sturmtigers without Zim because it has chipped off or is a poor quality photo. However there will be people who argue that there is picture evidence that two or three Sturmtigers had no Zim on them (ie the ones at Drolshagen, Bonn, and Kubinka) Ultimately you are on safer ground with Zim applied than without so long as you are not doing the original prototype. Confused? Wait until you start trying to put the stuff on your model:smiling5:

This link may help you with your Zim application YouTube

[Si Benson]

Steve beat me to it:smiling5:... I was gonna say all that, plus don’t forget most sturmtigers had some dirt on them somewhere :smiling4:
Si

[Mini Me]

Not to mention the projector outer sleeve and mantle were fairly rough cast.
Cheers, Rick H.:thumb2:

[JR]

Right men.
Before all at Race Towers bed down for the night.
Steve... Thanks for the pm, and I've had some thoughts about the Zim, see below !
Si ...Good evening Mr Benson, I'm sure we can add some dirt! Wait until you see the Tractor Dio !
Rick...... Thanks for that, might get some Mr Hobby then .
Having spend what seemed hrs searching the net Icam across some chap using Unibond no nails for the Zimmerit. Being water based I will be able to wash it off if needed. Also sent off for some Trumpeter Zimmerit tools. Unfortunately John here had no stock so I had to go else where.have
Also have a book on order
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Got it 2nd hand for £ 10 something.
I will start to clean the wheels sets tomorrow, now Steve has told me the early wheels were not metal rimed I can try to remember not to paint them .
Can any one give me the Vallejo No's for the yellow and the camo.I didn't thinkmy Stalingrad ones looked right .
Thanks for looking in .
John boy signing off .
Good night .

[Gary MacKenzie]

Can any one give me the Vallejo No's for the yellow and the camo.I didn't thinkmy Stalingrad ones looked right .
Thanks for looking in .
John boy signing off .
Good night .

Best i can find is

Yellow - Vallejo 882 - not a complete 100% version of Dunkelgelb
Brown - RAL 8017 - Vallejo 984 Flat Brown ( Matt )
Green - RAL 6003 - Vallejo 968 Flat Green ( Matt )

I use Tamiya , so mine would be

Yellow = xf57 or xf60
brown = xf64
Green = xf5

[JR]

Best i can find is

Yellow - Vallejo 882 - not a complete 100% version of Dunkelgelb
Brown - RAL 8017 - Vallejo 984 Flat Brown ( Matt )
Green - RAL 6003 - Vallejo 968 Flat Green ( Matt )

I use Tamiya , so mine would be

Yellow = xf57 or xf60
brown = xf64
Green = xf5

Hi Gary.... That will do me nicely thanks .:thumb2:
John:hungry:

[Mini Me]

John,
I have the book you ordered, you won't be disappointed.
Cheers,Rick H.

[Guest]

Yep I think i'll stick around as well if you don't mind. I've already built one of these AFV kit with full PE interior.

Tony lee