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    #16
    Originally posted by Steve Jones
    The Tamiya equivalent would be XF9 and Humbrol 160 for the Brown.
    Tamiya XF-9 is hull red, though, and is far more red than brown. The old recommended Tamiya colours for German WWII camo are XF-64 Red Brown and XF-56 Olive Green, and I suspect these are called out on this StuG’s instruction sheet. However, in recent years they’ve introduced new colours for this camo that are supposed to be more accurate, XF-88 Dark Yellow 2, XF-89 Dark Green 2 and XF-90 Red Brown 2.

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    • mrtintheweb
      • May 2020
      • 292

      #17
      Thanks Jakko. I got the XF-89 Dark Green 2 but my local shop and hobbycraft were out of red brown (both variants). The guy at the model shop suggested a set which I thought would work also in a 3-pack of Nato Brown/Green and Grey.
      I'll have a play. I've put a layer of the brown over the 'red' I used and will see if layered it works. I'm using the side armour plates as my test beds.
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      • mrtintheweb
        • May 2020
        • 292

        #18
        So pic 1 shows what the original Tamiya red-brown gave as a finish (it was the enamel, not he acrylic) and I just didn't like it.
        To get the actual paint was either going to take too long or was going to cost close to £8.50 with P&P so I went with Nato Brown on top of the red-brown enamel. I've left one piece clear to show the difference.
        The paint job on the up-armour panels is okay but I am using two reference pics to paint it, one the brown and green touch, the other they are separated with the sand colour surrounding sections of paint.
        Now I've done the armour panels I guess I need to keep it the same on the hull. But wonder if I could do the 'separated' pattern.

        Lastly I read that camo was often painted on with brushes by the crews. Yet the images I've seen it's clearly been sprayed on with lighter edges so I guess I will just do a 'Toby' camo that looks like it might be real and accept that.

        Last pic shows the hatch. Doesn't look the same as the image of artwork I've seen but again will live with it. Up until now, the kit has fitted very well. But the side armour isn't going on easily and I've snapped bits trying to sit it right.
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        • Steve Jones
          • Apr 2018
          • 6615

          #19
          There are many examples of camouflage patterns being applied with a brush out in the "field". Also there are many examples of the Schürzen being added to already camouflaged Stugs in one pattern and the Schürzen having a different one. So if you want to brush on different or the same camo patterns all over the Stug then crack on and make out it was done on the field.

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          • mrtintheweb
            • May 2020
            • 292

            #20
            Originally posted by Steve Jones
            There are many examples of camouflage patterns being applied with a brush out in the "field". Also there are many examples of the Schürzen being added to already camouflaged Stugs in one pattern and the Schürzen having a different one. So if you want to brush on different or the same camo patterns all over the Stug then crack on and make out it was done on the field.
            Yup..... Karl did it in the field! :tongue-out3:

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            • JR
              • May 2015
              • 18273

              #21
              Toby watch Steve he has a thing about camo. He's spent the last couple of years trying to get me to do it. :nerd: Mind he does know what he's talking about .

              Yours looks good to me mate .

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                #22
                Originally posted by mrtintheweb
                So pic 1 shows what the original Tamiya red-brown gave as a finish (it was the enamel, not he acrylic) and I just didn't like it.
                The orange blob? That looks like something has gone terribly wrong … Tamiya XF-64 red brown normally gives a kind of chocolaty colour, a bit like a dark version of milk chocolate. It certainly shouldn’t look like a good colour for a national football team.

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                • mrtintheweb
                  • May 2020
                  • 292

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jakko
                  The orange blob? That looks like something has gone terribly wrong … Tamiya XF-64 red brown normally gives a kind of chocolaty colour, a bit like a dark version of milk chocolate. It certainly shouldn’t look like a good colour for a national football team.
                  No I agree and hence the cover-up. I was half tempted to sand it back and start fresh but ultimately the nato brown over the Holland National Team 'blobs' looks okay for my eye. Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but for a hobbyist like me plenty good enough. I like the hull paint look better, though the green looks darker than I expected, but again, good enough for 98% of the world.
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                  • mrtintheweb
                    • May 2020
                    • 292

                    #24
                    Nearly done now.
                    I've completed the addition of tracks and body paint. Just need to add camouflage to the lower hull and wheels, add the rest of the tools, decals, attach the added armour side skirts and aerials.
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                    • SimonT
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 2824

                      #25
                      Hi Toby - don’t forget to paint the inner road wheel tyres

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                      • mrtintheweb
                        • May 2020
                        • 292

                        #26
                        Originally posted by SimonT
                        Hi Toby - don’t forget to paint the inner road wheel tyres
                        PANTS! Was hoping nobody would notice........ lol
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by mrtintheweb
                          Just need to add camouflage to the lower hull
                          If there are going to be Schürzen in front of that, you could just skip it. I don’t doubt that was done in the real world too.

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                          • mrtintheweb
                            • May 2020
                            • 292

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Jakko
                            If there are going to be Schürzen in front of that, you could just skip it. I don’t doubt that was done in the real world too.
                            It's more where a pattern ends abruptly because I added the paint to the upper hull before I married them up. I also want to disrupt the wheels with some colour here and there. In reality, the Schürzen cover the inside wheel rubbers more than the lower hull. But the inside wheels are annoying me. Such a pain in the backside.
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                              #29
                              Are the wheels still loose? Since this is a Tamiya kit, they’re fitted with poly caps (those little black tubes), aren’t they? If you didn’t glue them on, you can just pull them off, paint the tyres and push the wheels back onto their axles.

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                              • mrtintheweb
                                • May 2020
                                • 292

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Jakko
                                Are the wheels still loose? Since this is a Tamiya kit, they’re fitted with poly caps (those little black tubes), aren’t they? If you didn’t glue them on, you can just pull them off, paint the tyres and push the wheels back onto their axles.
                                Way ahead of you Jakko (that's a first) and trying the paint bath and rolling the wheels in for an even look. Possibly wastes a few ml of paint though.

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