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  • JR
    • May 2015
    • 18273

    #16
    That's a neat site you found Dude1.

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    • langy71
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      • Apr 2018
      • 1948
      • Chris
      • Nottingham

      #17
      looking good Dave,
      on the strength of your pics I've pulled the trigger on the same kit...
      (gotta finish my Panther first though..lol),
      Could i ask you a favour ? Would you mind calling out what paint colours your gonna use for this build ?...especially the Russian Green, as I've discovered there seems to be a million correct shades of Russian green, 'a bit like Dunkelgelb'..

      Thax in advance.. :thumb2: :thumb2: :thumb2:

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      • Dave Ward
        SMF Supporters
        • Apr 2018
        • 10549

        #18
        Chris,
        For Russian Green, or 4BO, I've been using Vallejo Model Air 70.017, but for this build, I'm going to try AK 3rd Generation Russian Green. Don't worry too much about 'authentic' colours, the paint on Russian tanks was mixed at each factory which made them, added to that the conditions of application, how long they had been in the sun & what weather conditions they had encountered, the final colours would vary!
        The US, building tanks on a car production line basis, had standardised Olive Drab, so, as they came out of the factory, they were all exactly the same colour.
        The best you can do it get it as near as you think looks right! I'd be wary of contemporary colour pictures ( early days of colour ), restored tanks ( near enough off the shelf paints......... ) and anyone, manufacturer or otherwise, who claims to have the definitive mix!!
        Dave
        pardon the minor rant, my wrist is giving me gyp............:sad:

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        • langy71
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          • Apr 2018
          • 1948
          • Chris
          • Nottingham

          #19
          thx for the reply Dave, i'm probably gonna go with the Model Air colour..(got a shed load of them in my 'cave'.)

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          • Dave Ward
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 10549

            #20
            Chris,
            I've run out of the Vallejo stuff & I have the AK on hand....................
            Dave

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            • langy71
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              • Apr 2018
              • 1948
              • Chris
              • Nottingham

              #21
              Another quick question if i may,
              I've just seen pics of a T-34 with 'bedspring armour', and I must admit i do like the way it looks, probably it's down to the 'just cobbled on on any old how' look,
              If i were to grab a PE set of this could it be added to this 'model' without any alterations ?.. . Was it just added to a standard vehicle or is it a case of specially designed tanks fresh from the factory that were fitted with this extra armour.. ?..
              (i'm basing this from the fun and games folk have working out which 'Panthers/Tigers had Zimmerit applied at the factory, field or not at all).

              Once again many thanks for any help and guidance.. :thumb2:

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              • Dave Ward
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                • Apr 2018
                • 10549

                #22
                Chris,
                I think the bedspring mesh armour was added at a unit level, so probably any T-34/85 would do, although, I'm not sure of dates - definitely Berlin 1945


                As far as I know, ET are the only makers................go for it!
                Dave

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                • JR
                  • May 2015
                  • 18273

                  #23
                  Yes definitely Berlin 1945. Used against being hit by a Panzerfaust and other hurled items from close quarters.

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                  • Dave Ward
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                    • Apr 2018
                    • 10549

                    #24
                    Engines of the Red Army is a useful site..................


                    Dave

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                    • JR
                      • May 2015
                      • 18273

                      #25
                      A great site Dave , some nice photos on there as well.Thanks

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                      • Guest

                        #26
                        Originally posted by langy71
                        I've just seen pics of a T-34 with 'bedspring armour', and I must admit i do like the way it looks, probably it's down to the 'just cobbled on on any old how' look,
                        Note that this was purpose-built armour, not literal bedsprings or just any old stuff stuck to the tank. Attachment varied a bit, but it appears to have been essentially standardised panels of armour.

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                        • outrunner
                          • Apr 2019
                          • 2420

                          #27
                          Looks like it will be an interesting build Dave.

                          Andy.

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                          • Dave Ward
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                            • Apr 2018
                            • 10549

                            #28
                            Nice sunny morning here in South Gloucestershire - didn't feel like adding the final decals to my Junkers F.13, so I made a start on the T-34 hull.
                            I assembled the road wheels, ready for priming, there are tiny pins to locate the wheels, so the big holes line up and the hubs have a flat to orientate them
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                            I'll prime & basecoat these on the sprue, them beat up the rubber tyres a bit & detail paint.
                            The Zvezda hull is a flat pack ( deep draw tooling is much more expensive ) The sides need the spring boxes & springs adding, although it's hardly worth it! The upper hull side has the springs fitted!
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                            Once you add the suspension arms & the road wheels, you won't see any of that, - still, it locates the arms.
                            A note of caution, there are many similar parts, and needs attention to make sure you've got the right part.
                            A case in point, the suspension arms are in halves, and you have to study the instructions carefully to get the correct pairing, the parts may look alike, but better to use the correct parts!
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                            These aren't too bad, as you can see there are left & right handed arms, but some aren't as simple. The Zvezda instructions are a bit 'busy' and careful scrutiny is needed ( and a magnifying glass, some of the drawings are a bit tiny )
                            I'll assemble the hull this afternoon, leave to set overnight - then crank up the compressor for priming, I really like to finish the running gear & tracks before moving upwards............
                            Dave

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                            • Dave Ward
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                              • Apr 2018
                              • 10549

                              #29
                              Lower hull completed, ready for spraying - no fit issues, you just need careful edge preparation
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                              The drive sprockets (r) are keyed to fit in one position, I'm going to prime everything black, including the tracks.
                              Dave

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                              • Dave Ward
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                                • Apr 2018
                                • 10549

                                #30
                                I primed the hull, road wheels & tracks black, then after a few hours sprayed the AK Russian Green on the hull & wheels........................
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                                The tracks I sprayed with my own track colour, metallic grey, grey & a little dark earth - although that's not immediately apparent in the picture.
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                                Compressor working hard today, priming black, then the final gloss varnish coat on my Junkers F.13, then the green basecoat, and finally the tracks. I can start on the roadwheels tomorrow, adding nicks & scrapes on the tyres before detail painting. Looking at the way the tracks are presented, that shouldn't take me long, not like that ASU-57 I tortured myself with..................
                                Dave

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