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  • CarolsHusband
    • Feb 2021
    • 474

    #46
    Diddy update, I really haven't had a decent run of time to get on with this. Gales and heavy rain forecast for tomorrow though...

    Had a bash at the sides of the hull tonight, not overly happy with the results but we'll see what it looks like when the kit is all stowed on the racks.

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    Apart from the broken rear idlers I also have a bit of an issue with a couple of the wheels. There was something else in the box with the kit for those decades, I'm guessing something solvent-ish, though it could be of rodent origin.... I'll settle for solvent.
    The wheels have melted, next mission is to get busy with the filler.

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    I s'pose a sensible person would swap them to a less visible position. Oh well, filler it is then.

    Cheers, Dan.
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    • Mark1
      • Apr 2021
      • 4156

      #47
      Originally posted by CarolsHusband
      Diddy update, I really haven't had a decent run of time to get on with this. Gales and heavy rain forecast for tomorrow though...

      Had a bash at the sides of the hull tonight, not overly happy with the results but we'll see what it looks like when the kit is all stowed on the racks.

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      Apart from the broken rear idlers I also have a bit of an issue with a couple of the wheels. There was something else in the box with the kit for those decades, I'm guessing something solvent-ish, though it could be of rodent origin.... I'll settle for solvent.
      The wheels have melted, next mission is to get busy with the filler.

      [ATTACH=CONFIG]n1151831[/ATTACH]

      I s'pose a sensible person would swap them to a less visible position. Oh well, filler it is then.

      Cheers, Dan.
      I've not used filler.yet but would it hold up on an edge like that without breaking off? Filing that edge of the wheel flat and gluing plastic on and shaping that up first might be stronger, just an idea.
      Rest is coming on well.

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      • CarolsHusband
        • Feb 2021
        • 474

        #48
        Originally posted by Mark1
        I've not used filler.yet but would it hold up on an edge like that without breaking off? Filing that edge of the wheel flat and gluing plastic on and shaping that up first might be stronger, just an idea.
        Rest is coming on well.
        That's a much better idea thanks Mark.
        Good call :thumb2:

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        • GerryW
          • Feb 2021
          • 1757

          #49
          Agree with Mark, filler could well be too brittle (at least, the Revell Plasto is!)

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          • CarolsHusband
            • Feb 2021
            • 474

            #50
            Originally posted by GerryW
            Agree with Mark, filler could well be too brittle (at least, the Revell Plasto is!)
            S'funny that, been using filler to hold my cars together for years !

            Actually not true :upside:

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            • GerryW
              • Feb 2021
              • 1757

              #51
              Originally posted by CarolsHusband
              S'funny that, been using filler to hold my cars together for years !

              Actually not true :upside:
              Good old Davids P-41! Years ago, I had a car (Morris Marina) that had the front of the wings re-built using that! Great sculpting material- will form in a mold for 'custom' effects as well. :upside:

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              • Guest

                #52
                Originally posted by CarolsHusband
                I s'pose a sensible person would swap them to a less visible position. Oh well, filler it is then.
                You can put the one on the right in your photo in a position so the bad part is hidden behind an outer wheel. If you put the melted side to the lower right or left, it’ll be pretty much invisible, I think.

                The other one is more problematic, but Gerry’s tip sounds like it’s worth a shot. Alternatively, you could leave off that wheel entirely (the outer one, that is — not the inner one on the same axle) and modify the end so it looks like the bolts were undone and the wheel removed. Probably the easiest way would be to cut off the wheel to leave only the axle including its front face and drill holes where the eight bolts around the hub are.

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                • spanner570
                  SMF Supporters
                  • May 2009
                  • 15428

                  #53
                  I'm all for the easy life, so Dan, perhaps just build as is and then place the model on a simple and straight forward base, sitting in some soft ground, mud or grass. Wonky wheels gone. Job done!

                  Worth a thought at least.

                  Ron

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                  • CarolsHusband
                    • Feb 2021
                    • 474

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Jakko
                    You can put the one on the right in your photo in a position so the bad part is hidden behind an outer wheel. If you put the melted side to the lower right or left, it’ll be pretty much invisible, I think.

                    The other one is more problematic, but Gerry’s tip sounds like it’s worth a shot. Alternatively, you could leave off that wheel entirely (the outer one, that is — not the inner one on the same axle) and modify the end so it looks like the bolts were undone and the wheel removed. Probably the easiest way would be to cut off the wheel to leave only the axle including its front face and drill holes where the eight bolts around the hub are.
                    Thanks Jakko, that is another good idea. Would it still be driveable with a roadwheels missing or would that mean it was broken ? To be fair, it looks pretty broken !

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                    • CarolsHusband
                      • Feb 2021
                      • 474

                      #55
                      Originally posted by spanner570
                      I'm all for the easy life, so Dan, perhaps just build as is and then place the model on a simple and straight forward base, sitting in some soft ground, mud or grass. Wonky wheels gone. Job done!

                      Worth a thought at least.

                      Ron
                      Thanks Ron, that might be another option.

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                      • GerryW
                        • Feb 2021
                        • 1757

                        #56
                        Rons idea has merit - after all, it's what, 3mm including track thickness? So wouldn't take much mud or grass to hide it (even a rock or kerbstone)

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                        • CarolsHusband
                          • Feb 2021
                          • 474

                          #57
                          I think I'm going to go for repairing them, it's all good practice and I like a challenge.
                          Also it's pouring with rain and blowing a gale so I'm best off inside....

                          Thanks chaps

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                          • GerryW
                            • Feb 2021
                            • 1757

                            #58
                            Originally posted by CarolsHusband
                            I think I'm going to go for repairing them, it's all good practice and I like a challenge.
                            Also it's pouring with rain and blowing a gale so I'm best off inside....

                            Thanks chaps
                            Keep us posted on the repair, always interested :thumb2:

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                            • Jim R
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 15734
                              • Jim
                              • Shropshire

                              #59
                              Hi Dan
                              Weathering looks fine to me :thumb2: There are lots of possibilities regarding the damaged wheels, some the guys have suggested. Personally I would go with Mark's idea or Ron's which is by far the easiest.
                              Jim

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                              • Guest

                                #60
                                Originally posted by CarolsHusband
                                Would it still be driveable with a roadwheels missing
                                Definitely. These tanks had double wheels on eight axles — losing one of the outboard ones wouldn’t really matter.

                                Here’s a Tiger in a similar situation:

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                                Though it could be it’s undergoing repairs, I’m not sure.

                                However, this IS-2 seems to have little trouble driving along with a whole suspension arm missing:

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                                As long as it’s not on the first or last axle, I doubt it would really impact the vehicle being operational.

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