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  • Graeme C.
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 1597
    • Graeme
    • UK

    #256
    The Panzer looks good on it's base Paul, nice one.

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    • scottie3158
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 14201
      • Paul
      • Holbeach

      #257
      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
      Excellent bit of gardening there Scottie. Best bit of rail track I’ve seen in ages as well. Tipping it forward like that is a great way to show off the top of the build. Nice one.
      Cheers Tim, I have revisited the track and tweaked it a bit.

      Originally posted by Graeme C.
      The Panzer looks good on it's base Paul, nice one.
      Cheers Graeme.

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      • Lee Drennen
        SMF Supporters
        • Apr 2018
        • 7711

        #258
        Another Award Winning build Paul. I like that Railroad theme Excellent job.

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        • scottie3158
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 14201
          • Paul
          • Holbeach

          #259
          Originally posted by Lee Drennen
          Another Award Winning build Paul. I like that Railroad theme Excellent job.
          Thanks Lee, happy you like it.

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          • scottie3158
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 14201
            • Paul
            • Holbeach

            #260
            This is now going on the back burner as I am awaiting some crew figures to turn up. I had purchased the Miniart tank crew but they are awful, no matter what I tried they just cannot be painted at least not by me. If anyone is thinking of getting them don't the plastic is nasty and the detail is terrible. I will be starting my next build in the next couple of days and will revisit this when the new figures have arrived.

            thanks for your company and very kind comments along the way.

            cheers
            Scottie

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            • Caustik Filth
              SMF Supporters
              • Jan 2022
              • 364
              • Rob
              • Portsmouth

              #261
              Look forward to seeing the finished article when your happy with the crew Scottie, I've not tried Miniart but had similar probs with MasterBox figures, very soft plastic so me being bit heavy handed, removing seams and flashing was not all that was removed!
              Onwards and upwards tho eh!
              Cheers Rob..

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              • scottie3158
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 14201
                • Paul
                • Holbeach

                #262
                Originally posted by Caustik Filth
                Look forward to seeing the finished article when your happy with the crew Scottie, I've not tried Miniart but had similar probs with MasterBox figures, very soft plastic so me being bit heavy handed, removing seams and flashing was not all that was removed!
                Onwards and upwards tho eh!
                Cheers Rob..
                It doesn't help when I am c**p at painting figures at the best of times.

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                • Caustik Filth
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Jan 2022
                  • 364
                  • Rob
                  • Portsmouth

                  #263
                  Originally posted by scottie3158
                  It doesn't help when I am c**p at painting figures at the best of times.
                  Yeah I feel it too

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                  • The Smythe Meister
                    • Jan 2019
                    • 6248

                    #264
                    I struggle with figure painting too Scottie!
                    I've found that,as you have found out, the quality of figure itself can be a major disadvantage straight from the off !
                    This is obviously just my opinion,but, when I moved onto resin figures,the superb detailing of them helped my painting immensely
                    By no means whatsoever am I saying I'm a top figure painter.... But my personal improvement has been very pleasing
                    Andy

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                    • Mr Bowcat
                      SMF OG
                      • Dec 2016
                      • 4600
                      • Bob
                      • London

                      #265
                      Just had a catch up Paul, really nice work on this.
                      Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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                      • scottie3158
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 14201
                        • Paul
                        • Holbeach

                        #266
                        Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
                        I struggle with figure painting too Scottie!
                        I've found that,as you have found out, the quality of figure itself can be a major disadvantage straight from the off !
                        This is obviously just my opinion,but, when I moved onto resin figures,the superb detailing of them helped my painting immensely
                        By no means whatsoever am I saying I'm a top figure painter.... But my personal improvement has been very pleasing :smiling3:
                        Andy
                        Andy, you are right about the quality of the figures they do make it easier especially when like me you find figures difficult. My big problem is I get frustrated I see the pictures of the details and finish that can be achieved, and after watching countless videos and reading books I cannot do it to my satisfaction. I know it's so wrong to compare your work with others but it is unavoidable for me anyway.

                        Originally posted by Mr Bowcat
                        Just had a catch up Paul, really nice work on this.
                        Bob, good to see you and thanks.

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                        • The Smythe Meister
                          • Jan 2019
                          • 6248

                          #267
                          Originally posted by scottie3158
                          Andy, you are right about the quality of the2 figures they do make it easier especially when like me you find figures difficult. My big problem is I get frustrated I see the pictures of the details and finish that can be achieved, and after watching countless videos and reading books I cannot do it to my satisfaction. I know it's so wrong to compare your work with others but it is unavoidable for me anyway.


                          Bob, good to see you and thanks.
                          Yeah,COMPLETELY agree with getting frustrated when gazing,in awe,of the "Master Figure painter" finishes....... ESPECIALLY on the Faces:flushed:!!
                          But really mate,we should`t...... the proper figure people would be VERY jealous of what you do with your AFVs...
                          I`ve found the uniform/clothing/equipment,is enhanced by miles when painting the resin stuff.... takes shading SO well:thumb2:.......
                          ....... HOWEVER ,(and, i`m guessing you`re talking about the FACES , of your figures),as INMHO your individual figures,uniform etc,looki fine... It`s just the skin stuff,in general, is a real science mate.....
                          .... but we`ll both get there...:thumb2:........ (EVENTUALLY!!!!)
                          Andy

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                          • Tim Marlow
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 18901
                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #268
                            Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
                            Yeah,COMPLETELY agree with getting frustrated when gazing,in awe,of the "Master Figure painter" finishes....... ESPECIALLY on the Faces:flushed:!!
                            But really mate,we should`t...... the proper figure people would be VERY jealous of what you do with your AFVs...
                            I`ve found the uniform/clothing/equipment,is enhanced by miles when painting the resin stuff.... takes shading SO well:thumb2:.......
                            ....... HOWEVER ,(and, i`m guessing you`re talking about the FACES , of your figures),as INMHO your individual figures,uniform etc,looki fine... It`s just the skin stuff,in general, is a real science mate.....
                            .... but we`ll both get there...:thumb2:........ (EVENTUALLY!!!!)
                            Andy
                            Agree completely about Scottie’s build qualities. Top drawer stuff! His attention to detail is up there with the best, no matter what he says….. and his figures are pretty decent as well.

                            As to figure painting, if there is a secret weapon it’s a using a wet palette and learning to dilute the paint correctly……wait, that’s two secret weapons…..must be careful or I’ll go full python and mention the comfy chair next.…..in effect, the paint needs to flow off the brush, not be pushed or scraped off.
                            Weirdly, I find the skin easier than the clothing, at least, in the smaller scales (1/35 and below). I’m no Rembrandt, but have worked out a method that gives effective results with the minimum effort. A good base colour, rough highlights (nose, cheeks, point of chin, forehead) with a lighter colour giving decent contrast, a generous splash of skin wash, and Rob’s yer relative! The rest, five o’clock shadow, mouth, lips, teeth if they are there, and eyes if you really want them, is just window dressing. It takes a decent point on your brush, properly thinned paint, and patience. I always paint face and hands first, then proceed to “dress” the figure with the successive layers of clothing. That way you can tidy up the edges as you go.
                            I know I bang on about this a lot, but I think the biggest hurdle to successfully painting figures is simply the fear of painting figures. Everyone thinks it will be hard, so, it is hard……I’m not saying it’s easy, but it certainly is no harder than decent paint and weathering finish on a tank or aircraft. With a bit of planning and organisation decent results are within the reach of anyone that wants them. It does take time though. I would expect to spend about three hours on a 1/35 WW2 figure to get a decent result.

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                            • Airborne01
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 3964
                              • Steve
                              • Essex

                              #269
                              Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
                              I struggle with figure painting too Scottie!
                              I've found that,as you have found out, the quality of figure itself can be a major disadvantage straight from the off !
                              This is obviously just my opinion,but, when I moved onto resin figures,the superb detailing of them helped my painting immensely
                              By no means whatsoever am I saying I'm a top figure painter.... But my personal improvement has been very pleasing :smiling3:
                              Andy
                              D'accord mon ami! (And the amount of Sauvignon Blanc of course ... )
                              Steve

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                              • scottie3158
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 14201
                                • Paul
                                • Holbeach

                                #270
                                Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
                                Yeah,COMPLETELY agree with getting frustrated when gazing,in awe,of the "Master Figure painter" finishes....... ESPECIALLY on the Faces:flushed:!!
                                But really mate,we should`t...... the proper figure people would be VERY jealous of what you do with your AFVs...
                                I`ve found the uniform/clothing/equipment,is enhanced by miles when painting the resin stuff.... takes shading SO well:thumb2:.......
                                ....... HOWEVER ,(and, i`m guessing you`re talking about the FACES , of your figures),as INMHO your individual figures,uniform etc,looki fine... It`s just the skin stuff,in general, is a real science mate.....
                                .... but we`ll both get there...:thumb2:........ (EVENTUALLY!!!!)
                                Andy
                                Yes mate as they say practice makes perfect.

                                Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                                Agree completely about Scottie’s build qualities. Top drawer stuff! His attention to detail is up there with the best, no matter what he says….. and his figures are pretty decent as well.

                                As to figure painting, if there is a secret weapon it’s a using a wet palette and learning to dilute the paint correctly……wait, that’s two secret weapons…..must be careful or I’ll go full python and mention the comfy chair next.…..in effect, the paint needs to flow off the brush, not be pushed or scraped off.
                                Weirdly, I find the skin easier than the clothing, at least, in the smaller scales (1/35 and below). I’m no Rembrandt, but have worked out a method that gives effective results with the minimum effort. A good base colour, rough highlights (nose, cheeks, point of chin, forehead) with a lighter colour giving decent contrast, a generous splash of skin wash, and Rob’s yer relative! The rest, five o’clock shadow, mouth, lips, teeth if they are there, and eyes if you really want them, is just window dressing. It takes a decent point on your brush, properly thinned paint, and patience. I always paint face and hands first, then proceed to “dress” the figure with the successive layers of clothing. That way you can tidy up the edges as you go.
                                I know I bang on about this a lot, but I think the biggest hurdle to successfully painting figures is simply the fear of painting figures. Everyone thinks it will be hard, so, it is hard……I’m not saying it’s easy, but it certainly is no harder than decent paint and weathering finish on a tank or aircraft. With a bit of planning and organisation decent results are within the reach of anyone that wants them. It does take time though. I would expect to spend about three hours on a 1/35 WW2 figure to get a decent result.
                                Tim, Your spot on with the points you make and they are the systems I try to use, I think the most important is the paint thickness, I guess I am just heavy handed lol.
                                Hopefully I will get there in the end.

                                Originally posted by Airborne01
                                D'accord mon ami! (And the amount of Sauvignon Blanc of course ... )
                                Steve
                                Steve, I will drink to that.

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