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  • The Smythe Meister
    • Jan 2019
    • 6248

    #61
    Originally posted by Jakko
    The photos in the technical manual also show white floor plates, but you can’t always trust publications like that because the pictures usually show prototypes. On all American open-topped tank destroyers like this, though, the floors were normally painted OD to match the turret interior, so that an aeroplane flying overhead wouldn’t see a huge white bit in the middle of the vehicle.
    Yep,that makes total sense.... the box art and instructions also show it white in the build stage pics,but OD in the overhead shots of the completed model!!..... covering their backsides I guess !!

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    • David Lovell
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 2186

      #62
      Coming on Andy , personally gun breech maybe three guys in drab clothing don't think a passing aircraft would have seen much of the floor anyway ,surely pilot/observer would have spotted the bloody great tank not the little bit of floor showing ,never mind as I said looking good ,several spg's in the stash all that work i do hook em out occasionally but slip em back for the closed hatch option. Dave

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      • The Smythe Meister
        • Jan 2019
        • 6248

        #63
        Cheers Dave,I see what you mean for sure.
        There's not THAT much extra work really,it just takes a little longer than the usual.... I've found on this one,the hardest bit so far is trying to work out exactly what won't be seen AT ALL ... I'm not into painting tiny,weeny,details that will never see the light of day... Life's too short.

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        • rtfoe
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 9086

          #64
          I'd leave it too Andy as all the dirt, mud and grime will cover whatever is on the floor. Some end up with bare metal showing on the raised treads from all that scuffing. All look good.

          Cheers,
          Wabble

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          • scottie3158
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 14202
            • Paul
            • Holbeach

            #65
            Andy,
            Your call mate I can see Jakko's argument and Dave's. I do tend to go with the drab floor for the same reasons as the inside of hatch covers are also painted the exterior colour so as not to stand out. But if your close enough to see that in the field then the vehicle is already seen.

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            • The Smythe Meister
              • Jan 2019
              • 6248

              #66
              Originally posted by rtfoe
              I'd leave it too Andy as all the dirt, mud and grime will cover whatever is on the floor. Some end up with bare metal showing on the raised treads from all that scuffing. All look good.

              Cheers,
              Wabble
              Originally posted by scottie3158
              Andy,
              Your call mate I can see Jakko's argument and Dave's. I do tend to go with the drab floor for the same reasons as the inside of hatch covers are also painted the exterior colour so as not to stand out. But if your close enough to see that in the field then the vehicle is already seen.
              Thanks for your thoughts guys...
              ... Looks like a bit of a can of worms eh?!.... I can see both sides, however I'm going for the OD flooring... For no other reason than it seems to be what I'd want if I was in said vehicle

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              • Guest

                #67
                Originally posted by David Lovell
                gun breech maybe three guys in drab clothing don't think a passing aircraft would have seen much of the floor anyway ,surely pilot/observer would have spotted the bloody great tank not the little bit of floor showing
                There are not always people inside the vehicle blocking the view inside. Also, though a lot less is easily noticed from the air than most people think, colours that contrast with their surroundings, like a patch of white in an otherwise green-brown area, are much more obvious. In any case, even if white floors wouldn’t be a problem the vast majority of the time, you can be fairly sure that a military organisation is going to hedge its bets and paint them a camouflage colour anyway. Better to paint something needlessly than not do that and lose a bunch of vehicles to enemy air attack because of it.

                Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
                the hardest bit so far is trying to work out exactly what won't be seen AT ALL ... I'm not into painting tiny,weeny,details that will never see the light of day... Life's too short.
                That’s part of why vehicles with interiors always take so much longer, yes … you’re forever trying to work out what can be seen and what can’t, and then finding that yes, you do have to build/paint that thing, too

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                • The Smythe Meister
                  • Jan 2019
                  • 6248

                  #68
                  Ok then Guys,
                  Some more done..... not finished by any means,but I think it's heading in the right direction :smiling3: .....
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                  Whitened up a little,and deck plates starting to look like weathered OD.
                  Next,some tracks.....
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                  .... This evening will be more of the same,and attacking the upper hull...good fun this is!!
                  Thanks for looking in.

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                  • langy71
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 1950
                    • Chris
                    • Nottingham

                    #69
                    looking good Andy, those deck plates look spot on..(I seem to think I did mine white for some reason)..

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                    • scottie3158
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 14202
                      • Paul
                      • Holbeach

                      #70
                      Looking good mate.

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                      • Guest

                        #71
                        You toned down the shading quite nicely. Not too light, that whole firewall will be mostly in shadow anyway, but it also doesn’t look like it’s covered in mud anymore

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                        • wotan
                          SMF Supporters
                          • May 2018
                          • 1150

                          #72
                          I thought you were going for a nice Stone glazed earthenware finish on the interior at first, it certainly looked effective. The reworked version is excellent and a good looking build.

                          John

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                          • The Smythe Meister
                            • Jan 2019
                            • 6248

                            #73
                            Originally posted by langy71
                            looking good Andy, those deck plates look spot on..(I seem to think I did mine white for some reason)..
                            Cheers Chris.. yeah,it would appear that either option is cool.
                            Originally posted by scottie3158
                            Looking good mate.
                            Thanks mate, it's looking hopeful so far...
                            Originally posted by Jakko
                            You toned down the shading quite nicely. Not too light, that whole firewall will be mostly in shadow anyway, but it also doesn’t look like it’s covered in mud anymore :smiling3:
                            Thanks very much Jakko, very good of you to say so.. they're probably be some mud later mind
                            Originally posted by wotan
                            I thought you were going for a nice Stone glazed earthenware finish on the interior at first, it certainly looked effective. The reworked version is excellent and a good looking build.

                            John
                            Well,HELLO ,Mr. Canuck,long time no hear!!
                            Thanks for that... This has been quite the learning curve!!

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                            • Jim R
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 15707
                              • Jim
                              • Shropshire

                              #74
                              Very nicely weathered Andy. Nice to get the tracks done.

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                              • The Smythe Meister
                                • Jan 2019
                                • 6248

                                #75
                                SO THEN CHAPS .. ere's wot I dun
                                ... didn't go overboard with the detailing as you won't see much...
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                                ... So,say "NUNITE" now,cos THIS is all you see when buttoned up...
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                                .. !! ... Nevermind,more to show in a bit.
                                Thanks for looking in.

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