Churchill Mk. IV AVRE with Small Box Girder Assault Bridge Mk. II

[Guest]

You use strong tone the same way I use Vallejo model wash black. I find it too strong undiluted so go fifty fifty with a drop or two of flow aid. After all, you can always add another layer if you want more shading.

I’ve not used the Vallejo washes, but it sounds like you’ve got the exact same idea I do: better to have to add more later than it being too much straight away. Strong Tone has about the same colour as Tamiya Smoke, but dries matt.

I tried Mig washes, but don’t like them: they’re far too strong and on top of that, you have to keep shaking them every couple of minutes else all the pigment sinks down again. The Army Painter stuff is transparent paint, and I get along with that much better by making a wash of it myself. I should buy a bottle of Vallejo and see if it works for me.

The wash has worked well and it nicely toned down.

It works well to draw the colours more together, though I think I will need to go back and drybrush with the Light Olive again because the highlights have mostly disappeared now too. This was a bit of an experiment to see if it would be better to highlight before the wash, instead of after as I normally do, and maybe it will work if I make the highlights a little stronger?

One thing I’m still debating how to do, is making the tank appear wet. It’s supposed to represent the vehicle when it was in the landing craft at sea, so I figure the upper surfaces would likely be wet from spray. Maybe a simple coat of semigloss varnish will do the trick, but I’ll need to experiment for that first.

[Guest]

Slow progress now because it’s all small things that need doing. I painted the tape over the hatches and the turret stowage bin edges with a pale sand colour, mainly because the handbook photos show a very light colour for this tape. I don’t know what colour it was in real life, but a pale tan seems a reasonable assumption to me.

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It’s not that neat, but it doesn’t need to be because both edges will be painted dark grey.

The exhausts are partly done:

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I painted the basic exhausts (the lower part) light brown and gave them a few washes of darker browns, then lightly stippled them with red-brown and orange-brown to give a bit of a rust effect. The deep-wading extensions, I painted medium grey followed by a dark grey wash. I want to add some light, random rust to them to represent brand-new pipes that have been exposed to salty sea air for maybe a few days.

[Mini Me]

Nice and tidy Jakko, keep it coming! :thumb2:

[Scratchbuilder]

Well done Jakko, I like the tape. Memory serves me the old tape they used for boxes etc was a sand colour, and so this could have been the same item. Surprising what you could find in the back of the QM's stores. Tins of fruit from 1943, although it was not tried....

[Guest]

The manual calls this Bostikote tape, which I’m guessing means it’s a specific type meant for waterproofing things. I suppose it’s some kind of treated fabric, which is part of why I decided on a light sand colour, but I stand to be corrected (though I probably won’t correct the model if somebody does a few years down the line ). The tinned fruit sounds delicious …

[stillp]

Google found an advert for Bostikote tape in a 1954 issue of Practical Mechanics among several adverts for Government surplus items. It's described as white, 3 inches wide, 48 yards on a roll. Cost was 6/-
I don't suppose it was a bright white though.

Pete

[Tim Marlow]

Google found an advert for Bostikote tape in a 1954 issue of Practical Mechanics among several adverts for Government surplus items. It's described as white, 3 inches wide, 48 yards on a roll. Cost was 6/-
I don't suppose it was a bright white though.

Pete

I found that. What a fascinating time capsule the magazine was. Articles about alien spaceships alongside a ‘how to‘ for motorising a clothes mangle…..priceless. Some of the stuff on sale is still in general use today….resin cored solder and Xacto knives, for example. Don’t think the TV interference suppressed black and decker power polisher being demonstrated by the housewife is one of them though….

[Guest]

Google found an advert for Bostikote tape in a 1954 issue of Practical Mechanics among several adverts for Government surplus items. It's described as white, 3 inches wide, 48 yards on a roll. Cost was 6/-
I don't suppose it was a bright white though.

That would be page 269 of this one?

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Good find Searching some more for [ICODE]"Batley & Co" Stockport[/ICODE] gives some hits in the British Newspaper Archive but you need to register to actually look at them, and I can’t be bothered

However, I did find the catalogue for the 81st Altrincham Show, held on 15 September 1954, at which Batley & Co had a stand. Their catalogue entry reads:

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Combined, it looks to me like the kind of company that might have bought up army surplus stuff if it seemed useful to sell on to farmers and similar, so for all we know, the Bostikote used on Churchills and other vehicles was indeed white or off-white. I think I may go back and lighten the tape a little. Thanks for the research

What a fascinating time capsule the magazine was.

Google Books also has a lot of old magazines. A few years ago I came across a bunch of 1940s issues of the American Popular Mechanics on there and enjoyed myself a lot reading the articles and especially the ads

[Tim Marlow]

That would be page 269 of this one?

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Good find :smiling3: Searching some more for [ICODE]"Batley & Co" Stockport[/ICODE] gives some hits in the British Newspaper Archive but you need to register to actually look at them, and I can’t be bothered :smiling3:

However, I did find the catalogue for the 81st Altrincham Show, held on 15 September 1954, at which Batley & Co had a stand. Their catalogue entry reads:

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Combined, it looks to me like the kind of company that might have bought up army surplus stuff if it seemed useful to sell on to farmers and similar, so for all we know, the Bostikote used on Churchills and other vehicles was indeed white or off-white. I think I may go back and lighten the tape a little. Thanks for the research :smiling3:


Google Books also has a lot of old magazines. A few years ago I came across a bunch of 1940s issues of the American Popular Mechanics on there and enjoyed myself a lot reading the articles and especially the ads :smiling3:

That’s the one. Page 237 has the housewife with the power polisher on it…..

[stillp]

I found that. What a fascinating time capsule the magazine was. Articles about alien spaceships alongside a ‘how to‘ for motorising a clothes mangle…..priceless. Some of the stuff on sale is still in general use today….resin cored solder and Xacto knives, for example. Don’t think the TV interference suppressed black and decker power polisher being demonstrated by the housewife is one of them though….

There were a few copies of that magazine as well as Practical Householder in my dad's shed. I used to find the adverts for government surplus stuff fascinating. I remember a common one was for RR Merlin superchargers at £7 10s each! Our allotment was fenced off with field telephone cable...
Pete

[Guest]

By now I’ve completed the waterproofing with Tamiya XF-69 NATO Black:

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On the engine deck, this went over the tape’s edges because this was overpainted with waterproofing stuff, but on the turret bin it only went under the tape, so I painted it up against the edges rather than over it. When taking the photo, I noticed I forgot to also do the part of the hinges on the outside, so I painted those after.

I also began painting the fabric covers:

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The cover over the ventilator on the front deck was attempt No. 1: a base coat of a light sand colour, followed by a white drybrush and then Army Painter Soft Tone for the shadows. This was not satisfactory, so I painted the mortar and machine gun covers by hand instead: the same light sand, but with painted shadows and highlights in darker and lighter mixes of it. It’s not greatly visible in the photo, though.

The other fabric bits will get the same treatment but with slightly different colours, for variety.

[Guest]

Now the rest of the fabric is also painted:

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It’s a bit hard to see in the photos, but it’s a little darker than the first two bits, to provide contrast and indicate that the fabric over the mortar isn’t one piece with that around the turret ring. Again, there is a line of Tamiya NATO Black for the waterproofing Bostik “C” cement.

[Guest]

I need to finish the wheels and tracks first, because of the need to add all kinds of stuff to the rear deck that would probably get damaged if I put it on before installing the tracks. I had already sprayed the tracks a darkish brown, and now added a wash made from paint that has the approximate colour of wet beach sand on Walcheren, reasoning that the sand in Ostend (where the real tank boarded the landing craft) is probably very similar in colour, given that it’s only about 50 km from here to there in a straight line. I also put the wash over the suspension, but not anywhere else on the tank.

The idea behind the wash is that there is some sand stuck in and on the tracks and suspension, but most of it would have fallen off due to movement and rain, as well as because I suspect the tank would have been cleaned to some degree before preparing it for deep wading.

When the wash had dried, I drybrushed the tracks with a medium brown and then painted all the parts that come into contact with the wheels or the ground with Humbrol Polished Steel, from a trusty tin I have owned for over 30 years Don’t use your best brush for this, by the way … Once the paint has had a few minutes to dry, you can buff it up to a metallic sheen, for which I used a soft toothbrush. Here is the inside, unpolished above, polished below:

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As you can see, unpolished it’s just a medium grey, but after polishing, the paint takes on a realistic metallic shine. I also did that to the running surfaces of the roadwheels and the teeth on the idler:

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The drive sprocket could also use the same treatment, but because it will be just about entirely out of sight, I didn’t bother.

[Airborne01]

Jakko

Thanks as always for the background info....knew quite a bit of it but still good to have some gaps filled in.

Made the Matchbox AVRE with SBG bridge in my teens and then also did one of the PSC wargaming kits with a rudimentary white metal and resin conversion kit on my return to the hobby, far from perfect looked ok from a distance.

Will definitely be following this, as my wife bought me an AFV Club Mk III for our wedding anniversary last year and still have in mind your comments/advice on tackling the suspension.

Are you going to do this largely OOB or do you have some modifications planned?

Good luck with the build.

ATB

Andrew

EDIT: Had meant to say that it cannot have been easy for your grandfather being a POW and for what I assume must have been the rest of the war.

Your wife gives you an AFV model for your wedding anniversary - WOW - mine gives me the bill for the expensive restaurant or 'weekend away' ...:astonished:
Steve

[adt70hk]

Your wife gives you an AFV model for your wedding anniversary - WOW - mine gives me the bill for the expensive restaurant or 'weekend away' ...:astonished:
Steve

And 1/35 Zvezda T34/85...... And 1/35 Airfix Cromwell.... And a 1/72 Airfix Wellington......

Sorry Jakko.