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  • Scratchbuilder
    • Jul 2022
    • 2689

    #46
    Originally posted by scottie3158
    Nice to see this back on the go. Let the magic happen.
    Ha!!!! read the above update, but thanks for the comment.

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    • Scratchbuilder
      • Jul 2022
      • 2689

      #47
      Originally posted by Jim R
      Impressive progress Michael. It looks to have all fitted together well although I wonder if that is the result of hours of fettling :thinking:
      With the resin it was mainly clean up and add filler to the air holes, and as with resin it does have a tendancy to rip at the edges hence the new parts from scratch. But otherwise it is a good kit and in fact one I would reccomend as a starter into resin/plastic conversions. In the Churchill kit you have all you need with spares left over, and in the resin kit as I said clean up and you can end up with a really good conversion.
      But read the instructions and LOOK :nerd: at the parts (see update below)....

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      • Scratchbuilder
        • Jul 2022
        • 2689

        #48
        Originally posted by John Race
        Ooh , impressive stuff Wibble.:surprised:
        Far to complicated for me, i'll stick to bricks and roof's.
        Wobble,
        I can hear you laughing from here.... :tears-of-joy:
        Wibble..

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        • Allen Dewire
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 4741
          • Allen
          • Bamberg

          #49
          Damn Olderthanme, it doesn't look like you had a good day with the CA, now did ya!!! I guess it happens from time to time and glad to hear you got the fingers free... Can you save it or do you have to de-bond the plates and redo them Mike? Not too up on the bridge things. She is/was looking good though!!! You'll be okay...

          Prost
          Youngerthanyou
          Life's to short to be a sheep...

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          • Scratchbuilder
            • Jul 2022
            • 2689

            #50
            Originally posted by Allen Dewire
            Damn Olderthanme, it doesn't look like you had a good day with the CA, now did ya!!! I guess it happens from time to time and glad to hear you got the fingers free... Can you save it or do you have to de-bond the plates and redo them Mike? Not too up on the bridge things. She is/was looking good though!!! You'll be okay...

            Prost
            Youngerthanyou
            No real problem Youngerthanme, just had an idiot moment of not looking at the part or instructions. Just got to c/a the side/edge and hold down with masing tape, then clean up and all will be well. Cannot debond as it will mean covering the whole lot, so will cut lengths of half mm strip, c/a that in position and clean up after. Promise I will get second half right.
            Prost
            Olderthanyou

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            • Allen Dewire
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 4741
              • Allen
              • Bamberg

              #51
              I know what you you mean Olderthanme...I glued the the rear deck on my Kübelwagen upside down and wondered why the rear seat had a huge gap between it and the deck cover. I started hacking the seat up to get it to fit, when I finally looked at the destructions and saw my error. DOH!!!...Lotsa TET finally got it apart and I glued it on correctly. Be damned, the seat fit fine to the deck now!!! Old age really sucks Mike!!!...
              Life's to short to be a sheep...

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              • Guest

                #52
                Is that bridge made from lasercut sheet, like some other parts in IMA kits? The SBG assault bridge I’ve got, has some of those too. (I ask because to a modern eye, it will also look like 3D-printed translucent resin )

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                • Scratchbuilder
                  • Jul 2022
                  • 2689

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Allen Dewire
                  I know what you you mean Olderthanme...I glued the the rear deck on my Kübelwagen upside down and wondered why the rear seat had a huge gap between it and the deck cover. I started hacking the seat up to get it to fit, when I finally looked at the destructions and saw my error. DOH!!!...Lotsa TET finally got it apart and I glued it on correctly. Be damned, the seat fit fine to the deck now!!! Old age really sucks Mike!!!...
                  But I look at it this way - we older ones are using our experience to make the mistake and then along come the younger ones and go "Oh! that is a mistake I will not make..."
                  And if you believe that then you really do need the care home....

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                  • Scratchbuilder
                    • Jul 2022
                    • 2689

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Jakko
                    Is that bridge made from lasercut sheet, like some other parts in IMA kits? The SBG assault bridge I’ve got, has some of those too. (I ask because to a modern eye, it will also look like 3D-printed translucent resin :smiling3: )
                    Yes Jakko it is from laser cut acrylic sheet and the fit is really good, the second (correct) one I cut out and put together last night in about two hours with no fit problems at all. I would like to see more of the mainstream producers look more into this method and product. And if memory serves me right there was one of the 'cottage' OO railway producers that issued rail carriages in this material.

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                    • Guest

                      #55
                      I haven’t built the SBG bridge because, well … the AFV Club one came out, but the material is very well-suited to flat bits that would be difficult to cast in resin (or clean up when they are cast in resin) and difficult to assemble in etched brass, I would think.

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                      • Neil Merryweather
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Dec 2018
                        • 5188
                        • London

                        #56
                        The laser cutter is perfect for flat things,much better than being cast in resin in a flexible mould. It's always baffled me how manufacturers employ only one technique to do everything, it's almost like the process comes before the subject, rather than the other way round.
                        At least we are now seeing some injection moulding manufacturers addin PE where appropriate (admittedly for a fair few years now)
                        I recognise that cost is a factor obviously but in the case of resin and after market stuff you may as well use the best process. That said, I had a laser cutter in my job but it cost thousands to buy, whereas now the prices have come right down to a couple of hundreds,so maybe we'll see a bit more laser cut stuff appearing in the next few years?

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                        • boatman
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Nov 2018
                          • 14475
                          • christopher
                          • NORFOLK UK

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Scratchbuilder
                          Wobble,

                          I am the only sane one on here and I have the paperwork to prove it, just let me unroll a few pages/sheets for you....

                          Wibble
                          YOU FORGOT ME Wibble lol
                          chridb

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                          • Scratchbuilder
                            • Jul 2022
                            • 2689

                            #58
                            Originally posted by boatman
                            YOU FORGOT ME Wibble lol
                            chridb
                            No Chris, when they talk about insanity - we just hold up a picture of you.
                            Wibble.

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                            • Scratchbuilder
                              • Jul 2022
                              • 2689

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                              The laser cutter is perfect for flat things,much better than being cast in resin in a flexible mould. It's always baffled me how manufacturers employ only one technique to do everything, it's almost like the process comes before the subject, rather than the other way round.
                              At least we are now seeing some injection moulding manufacturers addin PE where appropriate (admittedly for a fair few years now)
                              I recognise that cost is a factor obviously but in the case of resin and after market stuff you may as well use the best process. That said, I had a laser cutter in my job but it cost thousands to buy, whereas now the prices have come right down to a couple of hundreds,so maybe we'll see a bit more laser cut stuff appearing in the next few years?
                              Neil, I agree, we used to have cardboard snap out and join buildings, even on the back of cerial boxes. Even now we have a far better product for the railway modeller. So why not do the same with all models that have a flat structure. Imagine a 1/350 carrier deck with all the cut outs required.

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                              • Scratchbuilder
                                • Jul 2022
                                • 2689

                                #60
                                Update,
                                The build is now complete, the correction to the mistake with the treadplate is now rectified...
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                                And no! I did not put each piece on seperatly, it was thin strips of 20thou cut about the same width and then c/a used as the cement and when dry went along and cut off what was not required (the gaps)...
                                As I said the build part is now complete, going to start on the primer and then base coat...
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                                At the left hand side of the bridge tread, it is laid out correctly...
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                                And it dows work, all the way through the launch process. And today is track making day....
                                Cheers
                                Mike

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