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  • Guest

    #31
    Thanks, but these should be doable You get a jig to put a bunch of links into, so that you can then push a set of pins into all of them at once. Or so the theory goes — I haven’t actually tried assembling any yet …

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    • Guest

      #32
      Progress on the turret:

      [ATTACH]502111[/ATTACH]

      I filled the mounting holes for all the stowage racks on the right side of the turret, because it seems to be the only place where you can reasonably fit a Stinger missile launcher, but I doubt the crew would want their sleeping bags burned to a crisp and blown off the vehicle every time they launch a missile. This also neatly justifies adding a stowage rack to the back of the turret, of course.

      On the air cleaners, I removed the clasp because somebody asked why I used the old models instead of the Israeli armoured ones. On investigating, I found the Meng Magach kit has the unarmoured ones but without a clasp (and plus two bolts that I still need to add here), so I decided to go for that style.

      The track links are now all cleaned up, but still need to be assembled:

      [ATTACH]502113[/ATTACH]

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      • Guest

        #33
        With the Nike now base-painted, I’ve turned my attention back to the M247. At which point I discovered that I had glued the infantry telephone on back to front Of course, now the glue had had several weeks to dry, cutting it off from its shelf to simply turn it around proved impossible, so I ended up cutting off the shelf and making a new one:

        [ATTACH]503597[/ATTACH]

        I also added some extra detail to the phone box, mainly the missing edges of its lid, as well as the cable protector that runs from the box to the tank’s hull:

        [ATTACH]503598[/ATTACH]

        This based on the pictures I took of Bovington’s M60 some 24 years ago, which has the same type of infantry telephone.

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        • Richard48
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          • Richard
          • Clacton on Sea

          #34
          Really looking great Jakko.Different which makes it enjoyable to follow.
          Rich

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          • Guest

            #35
            I’ll make it a little bit more different right now, then

            From the Italeri LAV-AD kit, I took one of the Stinger launchers and added a bit of detail:

            [ATTACH]503717[/ATTACH]

            The transverse bits of strip are 1 × 0.5 mm glued “flat” on top of the nodules Italeri has moulded into the sides, and 1 × 0.25 mm glued “upright” in two spots where I saw thin bits in a photograph of a real one of these launchers on an Israeli M163 VADS. I also cut and filed away the ridges Italeri moulded along the long sides of the two cover plates, because pictures of the real launchers show you can see through them, which those ridges prevented.

            Then I needed to add a pivot:

            [ATTACH]503719[/ATTACH]

            Made from the end of an assembly jig you get in RFM’s set of T80 Sherman tracks and some 2 × 2 mm strip, then glued over the hole in the side of the launcher.

            To mount this to the turret side is a little tricky, because that slopes in two directions, but I would expect the launcher to be parallel to the turret centreline. I also felt there would probably be some kind of box mounted on the turret side to hold the elevating mechanism and perhaps some electronics associated with the launcher. Rummaging around my generic spares box, I found the section of roof plate I had cut out of Takom’s VT 1-2 to turn it into a JPK 120, and discovered that the angled bit on it would sit just about vertical and parallel with a bit of plastic card around the edges:

            [ATTACH]503718[/ATTACH]

            Then all I needed to do was make a hole in it for the launcher’s pivot:

            [ATTACH]503720[/ATTACH]

            Still loose, as it will probably remain until after painting.

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            • Guest

              #36
              On the back of the turret, I made a stowage bin from a piece of thin plastic card and 0.5 mm brass rod:

              [ATTACH]504079[/ATTACH]

              And the front now has smoke grenade launchers, as well as a mounting and three ammo boxes for a MAG at the commander’s hatch, all from AFV Club:

              [ATTACH]504080[/ATTACH][ATTACH]504081[/ATTACH]

              To build the mounting for the MAG, I had to look up the instructions for AFV Club’s Magach 6 on Scalemates, though, as it’s not very self-explanatory from just looking at the parts. The MAG and everything else above the swivel arm are still loose. I put that arm on top of the swivel arm that the M247 has as standard, even though my initial idea was to replace the latter by the former instead of sticking them together. However, because the commander’s viewer is very much in the way for using the MAG, I think that in the real world, it would have been preferable to do it like I made it here

              And then the track …

              [ATTACH]504082[/ATTACH]

              In future, I will not be buying any more Meng Magachs for their tracks, I know that much … To build it, you get a jig that holds seven links (or the end of the track you’ve already built, plus six more links), and then insert a little “comb” with six track pins. Those pins only go into one side of the track, as the links click together on the other side.

              This all works well enough: the links fit together nicely and the pins are easy to insert. But the trouble starts at this point. You now need to detach the pins from the comb, but if you do that with a knife, you’ll almost certainly cut into the link, because the bits protruding to the sides stick out further than the pins do. But you can’t get cutters in, because there’s only about 2.5 mm of room between the two links, and the head of the pin takes up 0.8 mm of that.

              [ATTACH]504083[/ATTACH]

              What does work, a bit, is to hold down the links firmly and then swivel the comb up and down until fatigue in the plastic breaks the pins off, but that runs the risk that one or more of the pins will still be attached to the comb — or worse, that they come out of the track after breaking off. You have to pay close attention that all of them are in, only then throw away the comb, and then push the pins in deeper with a suitable tool. And even then, pins regularly come out. If you’re lucky you’ll find them again so you can re-insert them with tweezers — assuming they don’t go flying from the tweezers, anyway.

              Add to this that the hole for the pin is moulded slightly short on a couple of links:

              [ATTACH]504084[/ATTACH]

              See the bit pointed out by the arrow. Inspect each link before using it, to see if it has a notch in it like that, because if it does, it won’t hold the pin at all.

              101 links per side, says Meng. I’m now at fifty, and trying to think of a way to do it better. Right now I’m thinking that it may be a good idea to try and retain the pins with a drop of thick glue on top of the heads. You can’t use thin glue because that will run down inside and glue the links together.

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              • scottie3158
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                • Holbeach

                #37
                Coming on nicely Jakko the stowage bin looks good.

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                • Guest

                  #38
                  It went together surprisingly easily — I didn’t have to redo any of the parts, which is unlike the normal way of things when working with bent brass for me Maybe it helps that I didn’t even try to solder them, of course. I drilled holes at both ends for the horizontal rods, and cut them clearly too long on the side that goes through the plastic card. The vertical ones I glued into holes drilled in the rear deck and also made them too long. Only once the glue had thoroughly dried, I cut them to size with my expensive cutters, which have the great advantage of making a square cut in this kind of brass rod:

                  [ATTACH]504107[/ATTACH]

                  And looking them up just now so I could show that picture, all I can say is: Damn! I didn’t realise they’re that expensive I bought them in a second-hand tool shop for something like €25 or €30 a few years ago, and thought that was quite a lot already, but they looked to be high-quality so I decided to indulge myself

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                  • Guest

                    #39
                    We’re approaching the painting stage:

                    [ATTACH]504731[/ATTACH]

                    On the bow are towing cables like on the later Magach 6 en 7:

                    [ATTACH]504732[/ATTACH]

                    These are by EurekaXXL, but I’m not all that enamoured by them. The quality is good, but the instructions are notable mostly by the total lack of them. Only by browsing around their web site did I find some pictures of assembled cables, which finally made me understand how they’re supposed to go together. And even then, the set doesn’t fit what you see there: they appear to sell two sets for the Merkava 1 and 2 (that is: two different sets meant for both of those tanks) and one set for the Magach 6 — but going by what’s in the set I have, you get the same things in all three. You can build three or four cables from what’s supplied: two thick cables with small eyes on the ends, and two slightly thinner ones with a larger eye, that you can then also connect to make one double cable of twice the length, just oile on Centurion tanks.

                    I drilled out the eyes with plates in them and didn’t fix the two cables together, so that I had two to put onto the bow. Also, I used cable from Trumpeter, because it’s softer than the one supplied by EurekaXXL, making it easier to bend into the necessary curves.

                    The brackets on the mudguards are nothing more than a piece of 1 mm plastic rod, glued into a hole I drilled into the mudguard, with a 4 mm disc on top and then a smaller disc of 1.2 mm diameter.

                    The little number plate next to the hatch comes from the Meng Magach, which gives you three different ones (times two each, there’s another one on the lower rear hull).

                    The right-hand air cleaner has a shovel, again like the Magach:

                    [ATTACH]504733[/ATTACH]

                    I think the shovel is from Tamiya British infantry, the brackets for it are scratchbuilt based on those of Meng’s Magach once more.

                    On the left rear are two spare track links and a stretcher:

                    [ATTACH]504734[/ATTACH]

                    Those links are Meng too, just like the ones on the side of the turret, but I drilled them out because oddly, these aren’t moulded hollow, unlike the links for the actual tracks. The stretcher is from AFV Club. On the Magach this is carried on the left front mudguard, but that is difficult on an M48 hull because of all the supports on top of it. On the rear here is a good spot for it, if you ask me.

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                    • scottie3158
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                      #40
                      Jakko,
                      Great job.

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                      • Guest

                        #41
                        Thanks I need to fill those gaps on the edges of the engine deck, though, but I keep forgetting because it’s not as obvious IRL as in the pictures …

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                        • Guest

                          #42
                          Everything for this model together:

                          [ATTACH]505733[/ATTACH]

                          Well, minus the radar covers, as I forgot to put them in the picture …

                          The tracks are finally fully assembled, which was the last bit that needed to be done, and I hope Meng’s recommended 101 links are correct. If not, then at least Meng is not one of those manufacturers that give you only just enough links. This is what I had left after building two full tracks and losing some pins early on before I worked out how to best put the links together:

                          [ATTACH]505734[/ATTACH]

                          On the tank, the guns are still loose, as is the Stinger launcher. I’ll only remove the wheels from the sprues once they’ve been painted. The commander is from MiniArt, though he still needs a lead for his headphones, and the jerrycans are from Academy.

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                          • scottie3158
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                            #43
                            Jakko,
                            Nice work bring on the paint.

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                            • Jim R
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                              #44
                              That's looking great Jakko. The tracks look good but sound a nightmare. Having some links with short moulded holes just adds to the difficulties. I like the look of those cutters for brass but they are a heavy price for something that probably won't get a lot of use. As Scottie says "time for paint".

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                              • Guest

                                #45
                                Originally posted by scottie3158
                                Nice work bring on the paint.
                                Soon™

                                I hope™



                                Originally posted by Jim R
                                The tracks look good but sound a nightmare.
                                I’ve built worse, if I’m honest. Like all of these workable tracks, the first bits are difficult because you have to figure out how this particular set is easiest to put together. Once that’s done, it’s mostly a matter of doing it in chunks to fight off the boredom.

                                Originally posted by Jim R
                                I like the look of those cutters for brass but they are a heavy price for something that probably won't get a lot of use.
                                Like I said, I came across them in a second-hand tool shop without even realising exactly what they were. Because they were obviously high quality and the thickness of copper wire they’re for is printed on them, I eventually, after some deliberation, decided to buy them for what I thought was a lot of money already Not a tool I use much, but it comes in very handy at those times when I need brass wire cut without the pointed end you get with regular snips, so I don’t regret buying them. But I most certainly wouldn’t buy a new set if these break

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