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  • pjgtech
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    • Dec 2023
    • 761
    • Peter
    • Swale Kent UK

    #1

    "Rubber" tracks, which glue?

    Ok, so I'm quite close to putting the rubber tracks on my Revell German Half track (1:35 scale).
    They are the single piece, long "rubber" type tracks. See pic:
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    After having looked at a few YouTube clips, there appears to be several methods, including Tamiya extra thin, super (CA) glue, stapling them together, sewing them together, etc, etc.

    What is the collective and expert view here on the best way to connect them/secure them.

    We'll get on to the infamous "Track Sag" later.... 8-)
  • PaulTRose
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    • Jun 2013
    • 6442
    • Paul
    • Tattooine

    #2
    Just looked at the instructions.......weird!....normally you get a peg and hole affair where you use something hot to melt the pegs to make a 'mushroom shape' to hold it in place

    Think id fit the tracks so they meet on the bottom of a road wheel.....use ca to glue the ends together and to the road wheel for extra support.....but dont over do the ca....brittle joint
    Per Ardua

    We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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    • pjgtech
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      • Dec 2023
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      • Peter
      • Swale Kent UK

      #3
      Cheers, On the Revell kit instructions it just has the symbol to glue, and that's it, no other advice/guidance.
      Think I'll leave the tracks till last, still got a few other little bits to do.

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      • PaulTRose
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        • Jun 2013
        • 6442
        • Paul
        • Tattooine

        #4
        I just wondered what the ICM instructions said or showed but the drawings are indentical to the revell ones......however in the translated english written bit under tools needed it mentions 'rubber bond' which sounds like rubber glue to me

        you got a bike tyre repair kit? ?

        hope that helps
        Per Ardua

        We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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        • pjgtech
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          • Dec 2023
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          • Peter
          • Swale Kent UK

          #5
          Just had another look at the Revell instructions, nowhere does it mention using another type of glue or different glue for the tracks.
          When you get to the tracks it has the same "glue" symbol as for every other part, so I am assuming that "normal" modelling glue will do, eg: Tamiya Extra thin or Revell Contact Adhesive, etc.
          I have actually contacted Revell customer service, via their website and asked them, but it has a standard disclaimer at the top of the page stating there is a 10 day response time! Not sure I can wait that long, but we'll see if they respond. Lol....

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          • Jim R
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            • Apr 2018
            • 15636
            • Jim
            • Shropshire

            #6
            I doubt styrene cement will work on rubber. Tamiya Extra Thin, Revell Contacta etc work by dissolving the plastic and as the solvent evaporates the two parts are "welded" together. I don't think rubber will be dissolved in the same way.
            I have heard of rubber tracks being sewn/tied together with some black thread.

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            • pjgtech
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              • Dec 2023
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              • Peter
              • Swale Kent UK

              #7
              Cheers for that Jim, The tracks may not be rubber.....I'm saying they are "rubber" cos they have that soft flexible feel, but I don't actually know what material they are made from?
              I would have thought if you need a different glue then the instructions would tell you that?
              I might try and cut off a small slither and test glue it and see what happens....
              Bloody things....!
              Last edited by pjgtech; 05 December 2024, 11:21. Reason: edit

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              • pjgtech
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                • Dec 2023
                • 761
                • Peter
                • Swale Kent UK

                #8
                Well, well, well....
                Got a very fast response to my query direct to Revell Customer Service, see screenshot of email reply received just now!
                They recommend using the normal Revell Contact cement. So I assume the tracks are not rubber after all.
                At least I can now proceed....might still do a little test first though.... 8-)
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                • pjgtech
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                  • Dec 2023
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                  • Peter
                  • Swale Kent UK

                  #9
                  I'm hoping she did actually read my query and note that I was specifically asking about the tracks only?
                  Fingers crossed.....

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                  • PaulinKendal
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                    • Jul 2021
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                    • Paul
                    • Kendal

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pjgtech
                    I'm hoping she did actually read my query and note that I was specifically asking about the tracks only?
                    Fingers crossed.....
                    Just what I was thinking - it does look like a VERY standardised reply to me.

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                    • pjgtech
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                      • Dec 2023
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                      • Peter
                      • Swale Kent UK

                      #11
                      Well I can confirm that Revell Contact adhesive does indeed stick the tracks down!
                      It takes a while though. not fast setting at all!
                      And as the tracks are so soft and flexible, keeping them in place while allowing the glue to set is a problem, as the tracks constantly want to unfurl themselves. So, bodged up some little weights to hold the things down and then left them for a few hours.
                      Went back to have a look and they have set. Not sure how long they will stay set if mucked about with though? so trying not to touch them much once they have set.

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                      • Tim Marlow
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                        • Apr 2018
                        • 18880
                        • Tim
                        • Somerset UK

                        #12
                        I seem to remember some Dragon kits had rubber tracks that could be cemented by normal plastic solvent, as did the very old Airfix Sherman (but not the rest, they needed a six inch nail, and a gas stove). Certainly worth a try.

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                        • pjgtech
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                          • Dec 2023
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                          • Peter
                          • Swale Kent UK

                          #13
                          Hmm, ok, just been doing a bit more track fettling and the previous set tracks have started to come off (even with gentle handling)!
                          So tried again with CA and stuck almost immediately, will leave it for few hours and check again in the morning. [Sigh]

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