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  • Grant106
    • Jun 2016
    • 7

    #1

    Klear

    Hi guys I'm just getting back into modeling and getting a airbrush for my new build. My question is the new pledge klear multi surface still good for cockpits and gloss coats cheers grant 
  • Ian M
    Administrator
    • Dec 2008
    • 18266
    • Ian
    • Falster, Denmark

    #2
    Welcome to the forum. Yes it is just as good as the old one.
    Group builds

    Bismarck

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    • Guest

      #3
      I'll have to disagree with Ian there Grant. Whilst the new Pledge stuff is ok for dipping canopies, it's nowhere near as good as the old Klear for applying gloss coats IMHO. I find the current product needs too many coats to give a good gloss, which can mean you loose fine detail.


      Personally I prefer Humbrol Clear.

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      • Guest

        #4
        Originally posted by dubster72

        I'll have to disagree with Ian there Grant. Whilst the new Pledge stuff is ok for dipping canopies, it's nowhere near as good as the old Klear for applying gloss coats IMHO. I find the current product needs too many coats to give a good gloss, which can mean you loose fine detail.


        Personally I prefer Humbrol Clear.
        Which Humbrol Clear do you prefer as they do both acrylic and enamel?

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        • Guest

          #5
          Originally posted by Awins

          Which Humbrol Clear do you prefer as they do both acrylic and enamel?
          Alan, it's the acrylic product. Humbrol Gloss Cote is the enamel based stuff. That's ok if you're happy with the smell, but I've found that the acrylic based stuff to be just as good.

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          • BarryW
            SMF Supporters
            • Jul 2011
            • 6010

            #6
            The new AK Interactive 'Gauzy' product has had a good review for canopy dipping and the varnish version looks good as well.  Personally I am using the Alclad Aqua Gloss.

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            • Guest

              #7
              Originally posted by dubster72

              Alan, it's the acrylic product. Humbrol Gloss Cote is the enamel based stuff. That's ok if you're happy with the smell, but I've found that the acrylic based stuff to be just as good.
              Patrick the Humbrol acrylic is my product of choice but the bottle that I am currently using seems to pool when sparayed. The only way that I have found to stop this is to reduce the pressure and apply many light coats. Do you use thus straight from the bottle or do you dilute it with a little water.


              Cheers

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              • Guest

                #8
                To be honest Alan, I've given up spraying any gloss coat for that very reason! With aircraft it's easier due to their streamlined shape, but armour has so many perpendicular surfaces that pooling becomes a real problem. So now I apply it with a large flat brush , it's slower, but you have more control. Plus I've found that 3 thin brush coats will provide a better gloss than 1 or 2 airbrushed coats.


                Thinning the Clear with water will only make matters worse I reckon. The thinner liquid will be more inclined to pool.

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                • Guest

                  #9
                  personally I use the GUnze flat and gloss clear for all clear jobs.

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                  • Grant106
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Thanks for the replys. The last time I built planes I was using humbrol enamel but now looking at things Im thinking acrylic. Just not sure who by yet. And Im starting again with a 1/48 revel b17f

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      Stick with enamels Grant, they're great! Haha I'm one of the few who still uses them on here


                      If you do go with acrylics, be prepared for all the problems & frustration associated with them.. and whatever brand you choose... DON'T use Humbrol acrylics, coz they're rubbish!

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                      • Grant106
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 7

                        #12
                        I've always used enamels and a brush but really wanted to give spraying a try. But I can see me going back to a brush

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          Just my opinion, but enamels spray like a dream. You can use white spirit to thin & clean the airbrush.


                          Plus you'll avoid the typical issues that acrylic users suffer. Probably the easiest acrylic to get into at first are Tamiya. As long as you don't spray from too far away, they're pretty forgiving. The only downside is the lack of specific paint colours.

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                          • Grant106
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 7

                            #14
                            What's it like for smell using enamel through a ab as it will be done indoors 

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                            • Guest

                              #15
                              Hmm that's a difficult one to answer, because smells are different from one person to another.


                              Personally I don't find it bad. I've had people come round just after spraying & they've never mentioned it. They're not being polite either, usually they're interested in my model making.


                              But I do have a spray booth; homemade but it does the job.


                              If you have any Humbrol tinlets knocking around & some white spirit, give it a try and see how it compares to acrylics.


                              It's my view that many users of acrylics who say enamels are too smelly simply haven't tried them. Most people take up the hobby or return to it, read on forums like this that enamels stink the place out & go directly to acrylics. 


                              Then they spend valuable modelling time posting up threads asking for help with clogging, tip dry & what thinner/cleaner to use  :P

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