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    Poly cement recommendations

    Im using Mr Cement atm but it doesnt seem to be doing the job. Im not sure if its because I primed my parts first or maybe because my mr cement leaked all over my box and dried up. Managed to salvage some but maybe its lost its integrity. Any thoughts and suggestions?
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    #2
    Tamiya extra thin is the only cement I'm using and it has no problem with acrylic primed/painted parts. It's the best brand I've tried.

    These cements are more or less just MEK (methyl ethyl ketone), also known as butanone. In some countries you can buy this in large bottles which is much cheaper than packaged by the modelling companies

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    • BarryW
      SMF Supporters
      • Jul 2011
      • 6027

      #3
      Can you confirm which Mr Cement, as there are more than one product that use this branding?

      I use Mr Cement S, the one very like the Tamiya Extra Thin, but better. I really dont think you can get better for cementing, using capillary action. It is by far the best on the market and I recommend this. It is faster drying than the Tammy version and in a test Phil Flory found it has better 'penetration'. Also any surplus evaporates quicker from the surface compared to Tammy.

      I also use Mr Cement DeLux, because it has a longer drying time and instead of using capillary action it is applied to the joining edge. In my view this does not give as good a 'bind' as Mr Cement S and I only use it now and then when a slower drying cement is called for and, even then, once a part is in place I apply a drop if the Mr S Cement to the join. But it certainly is a good option used the way I describe.

      There is also Mr Cement Limolene and just plain old Mr Cement neither of which I use.

      Overall it is the Mr Cement S that is the best you can get for general purpose jobs.

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      • Guest

        #4
        Originally posted by BarryW
        Can you confirm which Mr Cement, as there are more than one product that use this branding?

        I use Mr Cement S, the one very like the Tamiya Extra Thin, but better. I really dont think you can get better for cementing, using capillary action. It is by far the best on the market and I recommend this. It is faster drying than the Tammy version and in a test Phil Flory found it has better 'penetration'. Also any surplus evaporates quicker from the surface compared to Tammy.

        I also use Mr Cement DeLux, because it has a longer drying time and instead of using capillary action it is applied to the joining edge. In my view this does not give as good a 'bind' as Mr Cement S and I only use it now and then when a slower drying cement is called for and, even then, once a part is in place I apply a drop if the Mr S Cement to the join. But it certainly is a good option used the way I describe.

        There is also Mr Cement Limolene and just plain old Mr Cement neither of which I use.

        Overall it is the Mr Cement S that is the best you can get for general purpose jobs.
        I've just ordered some of this stuff from John, that Kittyhawk Voodoo doesn't like Tamiya Extra Thin cement, and yes, I have washed everything! Another unforseen problem with this kit - the chances of finishing this are not good. Grrrrr.

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        • Guest

          #5
          I think I just have plane old mr cement.

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          • BarryW
            SMF Supporters
            • Jul 2011
            • 6027

            #6
            Originally posted by MrGotty
            I think I just have plane old mr cement.
            Then I would suggest getting Mr Cement S. Using this kind of very thin cement is very different to the thicker kind such as the basic Mr Cement. You need to join pieces and apply cement to the join with a brush (there is one in the jar). Dont overdo it. Any surplus on the surface just evaporates quite quickly while the cement is drawn into the join with capillary action, melting the plastic parts together. You can clamp parts together or, for parts such as fuselage sides, hold them together with strips of masking tape. Dont apply the cement too close to the tape as it will wick under the tape, just tack the part together at various points between the tape with the cement. Once dry and it does dry and hold quickly, one of its good points, you remove the tape then run a brush of cement along the join to seal it and get a good join ready for sanding.

            It does not work well if you try applying to a part first to then mate it due to its short drying (evaporation) time. So for odd jobs where you need a slow drying cement another product is useful. Once you get the hang of using these ultra thin cements like Mr Cement S then you will not want to use anything else.

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            • Gern
              SMF Supporters
              • May 2009
              • 9219

              #7
              Originally posted by BarryW
              So for odd jobs where you need a slow drying cement another product is useful. Once you get the hang of using these ultra thin cements like Mr Cement S then you will not want to use anything else.
              Gotta agree with Barry's ideas on the different uses. I use either Tamiya Extra Thin or Cement S as my "go to" adhesive (I can't say I've noticed a significant difference between them on the limited number of kits I build) and Revell Contacta for those occasions when capillary action isn't suitable.

              If you're still having trouble, scrape away your primer paint from the mating surfaces before glueing.

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              • Dave W
                • Jan 2011
                • 4713

                #8
                I used Revell Contacta for years. But I'm a recent convert to Tamiya extra thin. Good stuff

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                • Guest

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BarryW
                  Then I would suggest getting Mr Cement S. Using this kind of very thin cement is very different to the thicker kind such as the basic Mr Cement. You need to join pieces and apply cement to the join with a brush (there is one in the jar). Dont overdo it. Any surplus on the surface just evaporates quite quickly while the cement is drawn into the join with capillary action, melting the plastic parts together. You can clamp parts together or, for parts such as fuselage sides, hold them together with strips of masking tape. Dont apply the cement too close to the tape as it will wick under the tape, just tack the part together at various points between the tape with the cement. Once dry and it does dry and hold quickly, one of its good points, you remove the tape then run a brush of cement along the join to seal it and get a good join ready for sanding.

                  It does not work well if you try applying to a part first to then mate it due to its short drying (evaporation) time. So for odd jobs where you need a slow drying cement another product is useful. Once you get the hang of using these ultra thin cements like Mr Cement S then you will not want to use anything else.
                  just taken delivery of both types of Mr Cement, and, apart from the smell (eek!) heaven knows what they put in this stuff... I am seriously impressed. Thanks for the tip!

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                  • matto21
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 182

                    #10
                    I can vouch for Ammo's Extra Thin too. Just started using it and impressed so far.

                    Matt

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                    • John
                      Administrator
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 4642
                      • John
                      • Halifax

                      #11
                      Just to add to the Mr Cement range, I’ve just got in Mr Cement SP which is a thin quick setting glue.
                      www.scalemodelshop.co.uk

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                      • matto21
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 182

                        #12
                        Originally posted by John
                        Just to add to the Mr Cement range, I’ve just got in Mr Cement SP which is a thin quick setting glue.
                        Bad news for me... I always like to try new things...

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          I have been using Mr. Cement S for years until the bottle was nearly empty. I am now on Mr. Cement SP. I don't notice any difference. I rarely need to use Humbrol polycement, mainly when I need to fill a gap. It is slightly more viscous and comes in a tube. I think is a mixture of the solvent and colourless polystyrene.

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                          • Ian M
                            Administrator
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 18270
                            • Ian
                            • Falster, Denmark

                            #14
                            Another Tamiya liquid user, both the regular and the extra thin. Also been using Humbrol liquid cement when the Tamiya ran out a while. That works rather well also.
                            For joining things that I do not want a seam line on I use the thicker Humbrol poly cement, the one in the squeezy bottle with the needle thingie. Works good and can get a good ooze going so there is something to sand back.
                            Group builds

                            Bismarck

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                            • Steve O
                              • Dec 2017
                              • 327

                              #15
                              And another vote for Tamiya extra thin, I've been using it for quite a few months now and no problems at all, it does a great job although I find it a bit strong fume wise.

                              Steve.

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