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  • Tim Marlow
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 18908
    • Tim
    • Somerset UK

    #31
    Hi John
    Don’t write off the Vallejo game colour washes. They make quite a few colours. I know they are in quite small bottles, but how much do you really need anyway....
    I think the grey is designed to shade white clothing and surfaces.
    Cheers
    Tim

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    • JR
      • May 2015
      • 18273

      #32
      Evening Tim.
      No not writing anything off mate , in my reference to the grey I was referring to the Vallejo acrylic wash.
      Quite understand your statement about bottle sizes, the amount of figures I do or will do is miminual. I shall ask you for some recommended colours please.
      John.

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      • Tim Marlow
        SMF Supporters
        • Apr 2018
        • 18908
        • Tim
        • Somerset UK

        #33
        Hi John
        73204 flesh wash is excellent. Paint the flesh with a mid flesh colour, add highlights, then use flesh wash. Brings the figure to life quite nicely, but is probably too crude for anything bigger than 1/35th. There are good reviews on the net for them, have a look and see what you think. I would paste links but have never got the iPad to work that well for links....I would think the sepia, black and umber will all come in handy.
        Cheers
        Tim

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        • JR
          • May 2015
          • 18273

          #34
          Tim .

          Thanks for that, I'm off to have a look .:thumb2:
          John.

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          • JR
            • May 2015
            • 18273

            #35
            Hi Tim .
            Back , an interesting couple of hrs, one spent looking at Doctor Faust's Painting Clinic on U tube. Can now understand fully about washes, using them and methods of controlling the wash.
            Found the part about using a clean towel to remove excess liquid from the brush helpful and touching a large blob with a dry brush to wick it away .Going to have to look at some more videos.
            Thanks for your help, really appreciate you giving the time and advice.
            John.

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            • Tim Marlow
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 18908
              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #36
              Hi John
              Glad I could help.
              There is also a good “how to” on the VJ website...unloading the brush is essential for keeping control...if you don’t the paint flows uncontrollably onto the model...I always use an A4 sheet of printer paper next to my mixing pallet....
              Cheers
              Tim

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              • Snowman
                SMF Supporters
                • Oct 2014
                • 2098

                #37
                Hi John, I have used both types the Vallejo Game colour wash and a home brew with oils & white spirits. Both work in their own unique ways so its really down to the user to determine what works and where.

                Good luck!:thumb2:

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                • JR
                  • May 2015
                  • 18273

                  #38
                  Tim.........Will look at that " how to " . :thumb2:
                  Gavin...... Hi mate, thanks for looking in. Just a matter of experimenting now until I find what works for me .:nerd:

                  John.

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                  • Guest

                    #39
                    Originally posted by John Race
                    Morning all
                    I've been considering moving to acrylic washes, I know , don't all shout at me ! :flushed:
                    Been trying to do washes on the Kitten using sprit base AK . It seems very bitty, I can see small flecks of pigment of course in this scale they look like lumps of pigment. ! Yes before you ask it was shaken !
                    I've watched on U Tube several videos of useing acrylic ,seems to be ok as long as you keep cleaning the over spill.

                    Steve Jones produces such impressive work on smaller scales, that's the type of finish I would like to acheive.
                    So anyone have any experience or ideas please .
                    John
                    I know I’m a bit late to the party here, but acrylic washes in my opinion offer easier results at the trade off of less control. Enamel washes take more time to use and are more painstaking but offer greater control and more flexibility.
                    John

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                    • Guest

                      #40
                      The effect can be seen here as dirtying the engine.
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                      And on panel lines and rivets. If you notice the streaking on the wing, that was able to be done with great control with the enamel wash
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                      • JR
                        • May 2015
                        • 18273

                        #41
                        Very nice indeed John , some inspiring photos
                        Thanks for joining in.
                        John.

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                        • Guest

                          #42
                          Originally posted by John Race
                          Morning all
                          I've been considering moving to acrylic washes, I know , don't all shout at me ! :flushed:
                          Been trying to do washes on the Kitten using sprit base AK . It seems very bitty, I can see small flecks of pigment of course in this scale they look like lumps of pigment. ! Yes before you ask it was shaken !
                          I've watched on U Tube several videos of useing acrylic ,seems to be ok as long as you keep cleaning the over spill.

                          Steve Jones produces such impressive work on smaller scales, that's the type of finish I would like to acheive.
                          So anyone have any experience or ideas please .
                          John
                          A long time since you asked this, but I thought I'd reply.
                          I only ever use Tamiya Acrylic Smoke as a wash. Sometimes neat (mail armour & guns) and sometimes thinned (aircraft).
                          It's not grainy and if you decide you want more than one application, you can add coats once the last one dries.
                          It has a nice dirty black/brown shade that is universally applicable.
                          Cheers.
                          DS

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                          • JR
                            • May 2015
                            • 18273

                            #43
                            Thanks Dave.
                            I've stayed away from Tamiya paints because I had read of the strong fumes. Dont know how true that is .
                            After a dabble with some Acrylic washes I've had to admit failure and have returned to oils .
                            That mention of being not grainly is something that I really wanted. Some of the oil washes I have made using tubes of oil still have that grainy look which I hate !
                            John

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                            • PaulTRose
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 6468
                              • Paul
                              • Tattooine

                              #44
                              Originally posted by John Race
                              I've stayed away from Tamiya paints because I had read of the strong fumes.
                              ive stayed away from them cos i just dont like them!.....i only use transparent red and orange for brake and TSL lens

                              ive always prefered oils or enamels for washes of any kind
                              Per Ardua

                              We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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                              • Guest

                                #45
                                It's a challenging job. With aircraft in particular, a wash is something to be approached with care and I always think the process through before starting, as you really need to keep the wet edge all the way to the end.
                                For figures, it's really very good. But my results with aircraft are mixed; I've started using successive thin coats rather than risking everything with one application. It works well on the undercarriage and associated areas - that and the cockpit.
                                As for the smell: yes, it has a whiff but it isn't excessive.
                                Hope that helps.
                                DS

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