Has anyone seen this... could be important for our hobby.
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I've been watching several videos on the subject over the past few days. Some of the content creators with huge channels, that actually make a decent living off YouTube, could be decimated.
Many of the channels I watch aren't like that, but they may not risk putting out content for fear of falling foul of the FTC. Any videos or channels marked "for kids" are almost certainly going to get buried by Google/Youtube as they can't farm information from them. -
Watched it this morning. It seems to me that channels like Andy's just need to make sure they aim at adults, a simple disclaimer at the start of the vid stating "not suitable for children" and the occasional swear word should circumvent the issue. I saw a reply on another forum saying he should have a stripper on a pole in the background. :tears-of-joy:Si vis pacem, para bellum.Comment
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I've seen a lot of people suggesting just adding overtly adult content, but I very much doubt that will help. If an operator or computerised scan is done on the video and it contains anything that might be "appealing" to kids, it'll get marked as such whatever the other content is.
That's how I'm understanding it right now anyway. I hope I'm wrong.Comment
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Been watching these as well. What I believe to be the worst is that You Tube will no longer be checking content but the FTC will. If they deem that the content is 'appealing' to children (12 or under), the maker/channel gets a huge fine. $42000 FOR EACH VIDEO this will only affect the US channels. However for non US the FTC will contact You Tube and order them to chop the Channel.Comment
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Certainly worrying. I've been watching this develop for a few days. As Andy says simply labelling a video as "not for under 13s" will not help. The FTC will make a judgement not YT. They will make decisions using very broad, crude algorithms. For example a channel about historical china dolls, aimed at adult collectors, possibly costing £100s, will be picked up by the FTC in the same way as a Barbie channel aimed at children. Model kits etc will also be open to similar problems.
Content seen to be "of interest to children" is of no interest to YT - no adverts, no comments, no personal data collecting and most important no revenue.
Maybe I've got it wrong. Maybe common sense will prevail. Maybe the inmates aren't running the asylum.
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There’s a good reason for the regulation: without it, you get business practices like Facebook’s and Uber’s (other unethical companies are available). The real reason it’s a problem for people now is because this wasn’t recognised when it perhaps should have been, fifteen to twenty years ago.
Not that I’m saying the rules are all thought out or implemented as well as they could be, of course. That’s where most of the actual problems for site visitors come from.Comment
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There’s a good reason for the regulation: without it, you get business practices like Facebook’s and Uber’s (other unethical companies are available). The real reason it’s a problem for people now is because this wasn’t recognised when it perhaps should have been, fifteen to twenty years ago.
Not that I’m saying the rules are all thought out or implemented as well as they could be, of course. That’s where most of the actual problems for site visitors come from.Comment
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The problem with that, in this case, is that they’re not criminals — but they are dealing with such amounts of data about you and I that in many other lines of business, much stricter rules apply than here, even if they have less of an insight in your comings and goings. Your doctor, for example, is not a criminal either (I hope) but is bound by strict laws when it comes to talking about your medical history. The Googles and Facebooks of this world are (well, were) bound by no such laws, even though they likely know much more about you than your doctor does — including probably much of that same medical history, if you’ve ever looked up anything health-related online (even indirectly).
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Right here is my ten pence worth and it is not nice.
When you buy a computer whatever size it is, you need to install or have it come with an anti virus program, this is to hopefully protect you the user. But what you are not told about is pop-ups, yes those annoying adverts Andy is telling you about. To prevent this you go into your computer settings and set your computer settings to NOT send data of what you do on your computer to the likes of Microsoft etc 'So that they can enhance your use in the future'. That is cr4p, it is so that they can build a picture of who you are and what you like to view, to also prevent this you take on a program like IP Vanish which hides you from the world. And those annoying pop-ups with ads from BMW to anal cream to dating sites and more can be stopped by installing a program like Pop-up Stopper.
Now we come down to the nitty gritty, Parental Control, this is where the main problem lays, it is not the internet or Googles or any of the web providers fault, it is the bone idle or ignorant parent who gives in to their childs whims and wants, get junior a lap top, tablet, phone or whatever and introduce them to the WWW - and once they know how to connect to it then the parent can ignore the child, teen or whatever and go back to their social life on their moble. It is the parents responsibility to make sure their child is safe and also to know what their child is getting up to and viewing. Would any sane parent whose child loves cars and trucks take them and leave them next to the motorway to entertain themselves for a couple of hours - of course not, and it is the same with the web. It is the responsibility of the parent, not the bloke down the street or Bill Gates or even Andy himself to be responsible for what your child watches on the www, it is the parents.
Have you noticed how the parents scream and wail when junior has got hold of their credit card and run up a few thousand on it, and the parent does not even supervise what the kid is paying for, but when the sex toys and the blow up dolly appear on the doorstep who do they blame - why the bank! for not stopping the card, but never themselves... Ignorance is not a defence.
My wife to a certain degree is computer illiterate, but even she has learned that I keep a wary on on where she is on the net and she is an adult. But in the world today the opinion of a great number of parents is that, I spit the kid out, now you look after it, my nine months of responsibility are at an end.
I am sorry to be so blunt but I am tired and sick to my back teeth of Lefties, snowflakes and the like telling me that I have to be responsible for others, when those who should be responsible for them are more interested in their own private time than what the kid is up to. And because of their crass self importance, the rest of us have to suffer. And as for these governing bodies, they really need to get out in life and to examine what is actually on You Tube and the educational value it has, and start to educate the parents that it is they that are responsible for what their child is viewing - and if they are not sure or have any suspicions - then take the computer off them untill they become responsible enough to use it, and stop blaming society for their crass idleness.Comment
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Think your quite right Mike .
I don't know how many of you saw the video mentioned by Barry, well worth a look .
I subscribe to the site, interesting chap and has some good videos.
This is a very worrying change, so I signed the petition that he linked .
Seems to me that this FTC has lost the plot and hopefully those in the States will let them know in no uncertain terms that this is not on.Comment
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Wha?!!...
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