Another question!

[Del640]

Again, I couldn't find anything on search...so..

I'm sure I will eventually collate a nice collection of paints, however, seeing as I need to order paint is there anyway of knowing what paint a model requires prior to getting it?
At present, I get the kit then I have a 4-5 day wait for paint....it just seems a bit more sensible ordering the lot in one hit.

..as I said, eventually I'll have a bigger collection but that is a work in progress!

Thanks AGAIN

Del

[Steven000]

For some models you can find the instructions online, take a look at https://www.scalemates.com/

Have fun,
Steven

[Del640]

For some models you can find the instructions online, take a look at https://www.scalemates.com/

Have fun,
Steven

Cheers Steve, I'll go have a look.

[Guest]

Don’t forget to buy an assortment of basic paints that you’re going to need anyway for all kinds of small jobs. You can’t go wrong if you’ve got colours like yellow, blue, green, red, brown, black, white, medium grey and silver handy, and depending on what your main field is, there are probably some more that you’ll want just as generic paints. For military modelling, for example, a few colours like sand, a military green, a generic dirt shade, gun metal and perhaps a few others will often come in handy. With these available, you can of course also mix them if you need a small amount of some other colour — say you need to paint something pink: just mix a drop of red and a drop of white on the inside of a jam jar lid or a glazed tile.

[Del640]

Don’t forget to buy an assortment of basic paints that you’re going to need anyway for all kinds of small jobs. You can’t go wrong if you’ve got colours like yellow, blue, green, red, brown, black, white, medium grey and silver handy, and depending on what your main field is, there are probably some more that you’ll want just as generic paints. For military modelling, for example, a few colours like sand, a military green, a generic dirt shade, gun metal and perhaps a few others will often come in handy. With these available, you can of course also mix them if you need a small amount of some other colour — say you need to paint something pink: just mix a drop of red and a drop of white on the inside of a jam jar lid or a glazed tile.

Thanks Jakko,

I do have the basics as you have mentioned, but I'm looking at my next kit and the image certainly throws up a colour scheme I don't think I have , it's the 'Yellow 14' BF109 flown by the 'Star Of Africa' a Luftwaffe pilot called Hans-Joachim Marseille, the upper of the aircraft is a sand yellow and the lower a light blue...the sand yellow I have a couple of likely colours but I'd like the correct colour to do this aircraft Justice.
Sorry for the history lesson, I love WWI,2 history!

Del

[JR]

Del,
When I returned to modelling in 2015 I went through the Amig list and picked out the main colours for Russian and German. Since then I add when required, doing as you mention when looking at a kit.
Some of my first paints have never been used, but as most are shades of browns , greens , grays etc no doubt they will come in from time to time.:nerd:

[AlanG]

WWII aircraft colours for the main part are very widely used. So getting a stock of the British Green, Brown, Grey. American Olive Drab, Grey and the German RLM colours won't see you going to far wrong. Also you'll need black, yellow, red and white for other things like cockpit controls/buttons etc. Don't get too hung upon everything having to be totally correct. With most colours you can do a slight modification by adding white or black to lighten/darken it anyway.

[Gary MacKenzie]

Thanks Jakko,

I do have the basics as you have mentioned, but I'm looking at my next kit and the image certainly throws up a colour scheme I don't think I have , it's the 'Yellow 14' BF109 flown by the 'Star Of Africa' a Luftwaffe pilot called Hans-Joachim Marseille, the upper of the aircraft is a sand yellow and the lower a light blue...the sand yellow I have a couple of likely colours but I'd like the correct colour to do this aircraft Justice.
Sorry for the history lesson, I love WWI,2 history!

Del

https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/bf109/bf109g_profile07.shtml

The main colours for BF109 are there. Main paint manufacturers numbers mentioned.

this may help too @ https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109F/...b-1942-0A.html

[Del640]

:thumb2:Thanks Gary.

[AlanG]

it's the 'Yellow 14' BF109 flown by the 'Star Of Africa' a Luftwaffe pilot called Hans-Joachim Marseille, the upper of the aircraft is a sand yellow and the lower a light blue

Upper colours

Sand = RLM 79
White = RLM 21
Yellow = RLM 04

Lower Colour

Blue = RLM 65 or 78

[Gern]

You have to try to get the right colours of course, but don't let yourself get bogged down by trying to be too precise. A look at any modelling forum will bring up hundreds of posts about colour matching with hundreds of modellers suggesting specific brands/mixes for particular kits - all of them different. You will find someone who doesn't agree with your colour choice whatever colour you choose to use so pick the one YOU think looks right.

[Guest]

To add to what Dave said: even if you know exactly what the real colour was and use a paint exactly matched to it, you’ll get this discussion. The reason is “scale effect”: a smaller thing will reflect less light than a larger thing, so if they’re exactly the same colour, the smaller one can appear darker to the human eye. Many modellers therefore choose to lighten the paints they use in order to try and compensate. Of course, whether you want to do this or not is up to you again

My point of view is that it’s best to try and understand the real colour as well as possible, then paint your model in your perception of it. If you just say, “that Bf 109 was painted sand” and grab a random sand colour, you’re likely to get it obviously wrong — too light, too dark, too grey, too brown, too yellow, etc. But if you know it’s supposed to be RLM 79 and find some decent representations of RLM 79 (or a good description of what its colour was like), you can go and find model paints that you feel look right for it.

[Del640]

Thanks to you all, first class.

[spanner570]

Del, I wouldn't worry too much about colour match, particularly where the desert colours are concerned.

Consider the climate. Sun, wind, sand, stones bouncing around, fingers, boots. The list is almost endless. All these elements will make the aircraft paint dark, light, somewhere in between.
The colour will even vary across the airframe, due to the bleaching of the sun.

So I would just choose something close to what you perceive to be the right ones. It is your model.

Don't over complicate the project, just enjoy the build and do your best.