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  • gothicgeek
    • Apr 2020
    • 161

    #16
    Try using black super glue ( it's slightly flexible ) or thick CA and use an accelerator, if theres too much glue after its set, use a debonder to clean up the area

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    • JR
      • May 2015
      • 18273

      #17
      Bob, I recently had to use some Gator glue for the Samovar on the shadow box. Now I know its hard to find, but you take some normal pva and leave it in an open bottle top, just enough say a large drop. Leave this in the open air , it will soon start to harden, once this has happened a tooth pick end amount will help hold the part in place. Once its taken wick some CA with a piece of thin wire into the joint.
      Also turn the section onto its side if possible , so the part doesn't fall off.

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      • BattleshipBob
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        • Apr 2018
        • 6792
        • Bob
        • Cardiff

        #18
        WOW, thank you all gents:thumb2:

        All the hard earned advice, sweat, swearing and jumping out of windows is greatly appricated. Lots to think over, must get more headache tabs, coffee and a loaded gun:upside:

        Now if i can help with boring StuG stuff, just light up the searchlight and beam a StuG F8 in the sky ( like good old Batman ) really must get a life

        Cheers all bob

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        • Jim R
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          • Apr 2018
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          • Jim
          • Shropshire

          #19
          Originally posted by AlanG
          Best you find stock of it and buy it. The owner is stopping making it so it'll become harder to find.
          Yes Alan you're right. When I heard the news I found a shop in Germany which had some. I've now got a decent stock. I like the sound of John's idea for using PVA.
          Jim

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          • BattleshipBob
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            • Apr 2018
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            • Bob
            • Cardiff

            #20
            Got loads of pva, will try that idea!

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            • boatman
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              • Nov 2018
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              • christopher
              • NORFOLK UK

              #21
              HI Bob well ive never had trouble glueing p/e all i do is sand paper the suface to be glued an then also sandpaper the other bit that the p/e is to be glued an then just put on the super glue an then stick them together an then use accellerant to hasten the glueing whick sticks in about two seconds an it works for me but just got to hope it works ok on the make up my big 4 inch radar scanner an thats p/e an that how i'll do it hope this helps you
              chris

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              • Defiant911
                • Feb 2020
                • 640

                #22
                Originally posted by Bobthestug
                WOW, thank you all gents:thumb2:

                All the hard earned advice, sweat, swearing and jumping out of windows is greatly appricated. Lots to think over, must get more headache tabs, coffee and a loaded gun:upside:

                Now if i can help with boring StuG stuff, just light up the searchlight and beam a StuG F8 in the sky ( like good old Batman ) really must get a life

                Cheers all bob
                I feel your pain Bob, trouble is also that a lot of pe needs painting before fitting so your glueing a painted surface which probably does not help.
                that said the one bit of pe that always seems to stick well is the railings. For some reason these stick rather too well sometimes and you hardly have time to position them correctly.
                im not even going to start moaning about the rest of my ship build currently as it’s become more and more testing with each session. I’m finding just half an hour a time is enough or else I might drop it in the bin.

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                • BattleshipBob
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                  • Apr 2018
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                  • Bob
                  • Cardiff

                  #23
                  Originally posted by boatman
                  HI Bob well ive never had trouble glueing p/e all i do is sand paper the suface to be glued an then also sandpaper the other bit that the p/e is to be glued an then just put on the super glue an then stick them together an then use accellerant to hasten the glueing whick sticks in about two seconds an it works for me as ive got to make up my big 4 inch radar scanner an thats p/e an that how i'll do it hope this helps you
                  chris
                  Thanks Chris

                  With the amount of PE with ships and some bought for KGV i must sort this out!

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                  • boatman
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                    • Nov 2018
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                    • christopher
                    • NORFOLK UK

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Bobthestug
                    Thanks Chris

                    With the amount of PE with ships and some bought for KGV i must sort this out!
                    WELL Bob i stuck my p/e on my jag model ok an that hasnt come off but as soon as its warm wheather i'll be able to paint spray my big 4 inch radar scanner as thats all p/e an see how i get on as i havent done that much p/e an thats got to be built as it cant be built first before painted as it in a box section an i wont be able to paint it in side an Bob no jumpin out of windows an put that loaded gun away lol
                    chris

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                    • Del640
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                      • May 2020
                      • 1151

                      #25
                      I'm by no means a learned colleague in this field but I use Gorilla gel.
                      It's basically a gel super glue, gives you a short time to adjust the part and dries clear, goes on easily with a cocktail stick too.

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                      • Guest

                        #26
                        Bob how I do it. Produced this some time ago. I use the very thin on average & wick around the outside of the PE. Goes off very quickly. The secret is to get some primer. prime the plastic before hand. Unfortunatley the primer shown here is only available in 50 lots.

                        See if i can find another primer they do exist.

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                        • Guest

                          #27
                          Here are some primers after a quick search, Probably others.



                          TECHSiL® Cyanoacrylate Primer 77 is a single component primer for use in conjunction with TECHSiL® Cyanoacrylates. TECHSiL® 77 enables the adhesion of difficult to bond plastics such as polypropylene, polyethylene and silicone rubber by increasing the surface energy.

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                          • JR
                            • May 2015
                            • 18273

                            #28
                            Some great tips there Laurie, like the look of the .
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                            • Guest

                              #29
                              Originally posted by John Race
                              Some great tips there Laurie, like the look of the .
                              Yes that looks good as it is the cheapest. Pity about Power Drop. It has a felt tip which makes it perfect for our sort of work.

                              Best with a liquid, I think, to apply it with a small amount on a cotton bud as you only need as much as you would get from a felt tip.
                              Laurie

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                              • BattleshipBob
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                                • Apr 2018
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                                • Bob
                                • Cardiff

                                #30
                                Thank you very much Laurie

                                Cracking, will try the needles, i use old pringle lids for CA

                                Bob

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