Newbie dumb paint choice question

[Guest]

Vallejo are listed as 'model air' and 'model color'.

[PaulTRose]

Here's the 'Air' colours I use. Dunkelgelb 71-025/ Green 71-096/ Brown 71-041.

Don't beat yourself up over the 'Correct' shades There are too many variants which would have affected them. How the paint was applied? Was the paint thinned by the crew 'painter'? General weather, sun bleaching, mud, boots, the list goes on and on and.....Even down to different shades from different production factories!

In other words, in my view there is NO absolutely 100% correct shade and colour. There just can't be. - Can there?

Try and avoid Tamiya acrylic paints for brush work.

Ron

thats the good thing about doing mid to late german armour........as long as you start with the 3 basic colours you cant go wrong.....so many variations of shade............and theres so many camo patterns its difficult to make a hash of that

couldnt agree more about tamiya paint.......terrible stuff imho..................vallejo or revell aquas for brush painting (and air brushing too)

[PaulTRose]

Vallejo are listed as 'model air' and 'model color'.

and either are good for brush painting......or air brushing as well

[Guest]

Hi all, and thanks for all the great advise, everything now ordered care of Amazon....kit, glue, brushes and paint....fingers crossed....what could possibly go wrong!!

Sorry to pry Stu, but any particular reason for using Amazon?

The shop connected to this forum has very competitive prices and you get the bonus of a discount by being a forum supporter.

None of my business, I just wondered.

[adt70hk]

Can only second what Andy (aka paintguy) said.

I normally only go elsewhere if I can't find it on here or I've stumbled across a real bargain. John's service is second to none and, as Andy said, you get the 5% discount as a supporter. Plus John offers a rewards point system so you get money off your next purchase too.

ATB.

Andrew

[PaulTRose]

and its every bit as quick as amazon!

[spanner570]

Poor Stu.
When he reads the last few posts, he will probably feel awful.

I suspect, being a newcomer, he might not have realised this forum had a shop.

[Guest]

There will probably be an equivalent in their regular acrylic range more suitable for brushing

Annoyingly, Tamiya don’t appear to list these themselves anywhere that I’ve ever seen, and in their newer kits they even just give the aerosol can number without also providing the number for the equivalent paint in a glass jar

[Stubod]

...yep feeling pretty crap now....not noticed the forum has a shop!!.....since lockdown use Amazon for pretty much everything, except the weekly Tesco online shop, (and Tesco don't do models...).

..currently saying a few hail Mary's as penance.....will use the shop in future, (assuming I have one), have spent the afternoon preping the back bedroom in readiness. Already considering a ship (Bismark?) as the next project as I had one in my yuff.

If the tank goes pearshaped I will blame everybody on the forum for their advise....it will be everybodys fault but mine.... :smiling3:

[Guest]

I would first retire Tamiya as it really is a very nice paint giving a good finish. But only for airbrushing as it dries to quickly for hand brushing.

I would go for Vallejo Model Air. Designed for airbrushing but with a bit of technique does work well for hand brushing.

With hand brushing I would use their Vallejo Flow. This reduces the cure time while hand brushing & gives a much better finish. Do not use Vallejo thinner as this will enhance the drying time which you do not want with hand brushing.

http://www.creativemodels.co.uk/pain...facturers_id=8. This is a good conversion chart.

I used to get hung up about colours. Now I look at pictures & choose which ever seems to represent. If you take a pristine aircraft or armour vehicle the colour will be perfect but when used in theatre the colours are degraded by use & also the enviroment they are used in.

So you have a wide diversity. On top of that washes to weather etc again chainge the colour content. It is in fact your choice & that, for me, is where the artistic part of model making creeps in.

Laurie

[rtfoe]

Hi Stu, I don't think I'll be much help since switching to an airbrush some 40 odd years ago.

For armour I use base colors like olive drab, German grey, dark yellow, desert yellow, brown and pea green over a primer of either white, black or brown. It covers large areas faster than a paint brush and I'm too lazy to wait for coats to dry and afraid to agitate the previous layer brushing on the next layer. You see with an airbrush the paint is laid on top in a blanket style. Also the solvents used dry quickly. If I brush paint, cobwebs would have formed on my kits already as most know I work at a snails pace.:smiling2:

However I will use a paintbrush for detail painting and weathering. Specific colors here are not necessary because I mix from a set of primary colors to get the shade I need. I use any form of medium but must remember what solvent or thinning liquid is required for each application. Lately Vallejo or AK is what I use, oils was my previous but now and then I will mix to get the effects I need.

Spend time experimenting with the different mediums as they produce great results when used altogether. Or you can find a medium you are comfortable with and stick with it. If anything goes wrong just re-do it. I realised early on when breaking a part it was no use fuming over it as the kit was in pieces in the first place...just stick it back.

Cheers,
Richard

PS: All suggestions above has been given freely and I will not be held responsible for any mishaps that should occur while executing the hobby. :smiling6: