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  • outrunner
    • Apr 2019
    • 2420

    #16
    I get most enjoment from the act of building the model, the finished article will never be seen by anyone other than a few pictures I put up on here. I do try to do the model justice but my finishing skills are nowhere as good as I others I have seen on here and elsewhere and if I am happy with it that is all that matters to me.

    Andy.

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    • rtfoe
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 9099

      #17
      For me it all depends on deciding how difficult the extra detail is going to be and whether I'm capable of doing it at the point of time. Meaning I have stopped projects and renewed them when my skill sets had improved or the bulb lights up in the old noggle with a gee so that's the way to do it comes up. I try never to bin a kit and I'm used to building old kits with bad fitting with simplified details crying out to look better. So when I come across a new kit and find that someone still has a problem with just putting fuselage halves together amazes me...the new generation of modelers are really spoilt.

      I do believe in whats not seen be left alone but when you're having fun there aren't any emergency brakes. Obviously its sad when it gets closed up and all you can tell people is there's a detailed glove compartment in there.

      It's a challenge to build OOB...I hide much of my references, tools and spares away to avoid temptation to scratch. A weekend OOB build can easily escalate to a few months or years build if I'm not careful. :tears-of-joy: ...I'm beyond help. Dioramas are a mine field...there's always a better composition just round the corner.

      Cheers,
      Richard

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      • Ian M
        Administrator
        • Dec 2008
        • 18271
        • Ian
        • Falster, Denmark

        #18
        For me it depends on a few things. If the model is very basic and looks wrong but is the only one available I could find myself going to town with extras. Also if is was for a GB I could also give it a bit more. But only if really needed. In fact several PE sets have been put away with many parts still in the frame as they just dont make a difference or are never seen.
        I would say that about 70% og the things I build are OOB with maybe a bit of wire here and there. Also things like handles and bars that are badly formed get swapped for plastic rod or wire.
        If its close enough its good enough. its not like any I know are going to look at them and say "thats wrong".
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        Bismarck

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        • boatman
          SMF Supporters
          • Nov 2018
          • 14498
          • christopher
          • NORFOLK UK

          #19
          Originally posted by rtfoe
          For me it all depends on deciding how difficult the extra detail is going to be and whether I'm capable of doing it at the point of time. Meaning I have stopped projects and renewed them when my skill sets had improved or the bulb lights up in the old noggle with a gee so that's the way to do it comes up. I try never to bin a kit and I'm used to building old kits with bad fitting with simplified details crying out to look better. So when I come across a new kit and find that someone still has a problem with just putting fuselage halves together amazes me...the new generation of modelers are really spoilt.

          I do believe in whats not seen be left alone but when you're having fun there aren't any emergency brakes. Obviously its sad when it gets closed up and all you can tell people is there's a detailed glove compartment in there.

          It's a challenge to build OOB...I hide much of my references, tools and spares away to avoid temptation to scratch. A weekend OOB build can easily escalate to a few months or years build if I'm not careful. :tears-of-joy: ...I'm beyond help. Dioramas are a mine field...there's always a better composition just round the corner.

          Cheers,
          Richard
          YEA Richard very well said if there is a problem with the fit of a model stick at it an not just bin it as this is what modelings all about an you are certainly capable of doin most awkward kits after seeing your work on that spyship an in that tiny scale WOW
          Chris

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          • boatman
            SMF Supporters
            • Nov 2018
            • 14498
            • christopher
            • NORFOLK UK

            #20
            If its close enough its good enough. its not like any I know are going to look at them and say "thats wrong"
            (Ian qoute )
            AN Ian yes what you say is very true If its close enough its good enough. its not like any I know are going to look at them and say "thats wrong"
            but ive had a person off one of my ships models when in a model show come up an say youve got that wrong m8 an i said whats wrong an apperantly he was a crew member off the real ship of my model as it was in dock in malta an i said well whats wrong then an he said oh youve got your crew members in yellow windbreakers an black trousers an we are waering whites an shorts so i said well yes you are in malta where its bloomin hot but my ship model was done from a R/N picture of my model in the solent comein into port at portsmouth an there was a very cold wind blown there well he shut up like a clam an walked off an never see him again what a day that was
            chris

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            • Guest

              #21
              Generally, at my preferred scale of 1/72, scratch building is out of the question as it's just too small to be reasonable. Particularly inside cockpits where it is likely to never be seen, even by me!

              I never start a model with the intention of scratch building, rather get in to it if I think the model will benefit from it or to replace something I have clumsily broken off. I'll also only undertake the work if: a) I think I can do it, 2) it improves the model, D) if I will enjoy the work.
              None of my family or friends are interested in my modelling so I do it purely for my own satisfaction.

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              • Guest

                #22
                Whilst ability comes into it all it is determination which sets your standards.

                Not what others think it is what I think have I made as good a job as I can.

                Laurie

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                • PaulTRose
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 6501
                  • Paul
                  • Tattooine

                  #23
                  it all depends

                  if you cant see it then i dont see the point...........rather spend my time on things you can see

                  done lots of cars which are curbside......if you cant see the engine then why bother even painting it let alone improving it........yet im currently doing a hot rod so im in the middle of scratching a distributer and wiring up the heads cos it will all be on view

                  seat belts are another thing.......im not a lover of PE but im getting into seat belts cos they do improve things

                  i do think that there seems to be a fad for companies to use pe simply to increase parts count or to make the kit look more appealing but that dosnt make it more buildable or enjoyable
                  Per Ardua

                  We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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                  • GerryW
                    • Feb 2021
                    • 1757

                    #24
                    Originally posted by beowulf
                    i do think that there seems to be a fad for companies to use pe simply to increase parts count or to make the kit look more appealing but that dosnt make it more buildable or enjoyable
                    I don't think that it's a 'fad', it's been going on too long - Tamiya was using it as a 'selling point' years ago - I personally think that all manufacturers think that if they offer a 'basic' kit, and another manufacturer offers a 'more involved' kit that they'll lose sales, so out comes the microscope to make parts even more detailed!

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                    • Ian M
                      Administrator
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 18271
                      • Ian
                      • Falster, Denmark

                      #25
                      This all reminds me of a conversation at some air show or the other. Some guy had flown in in his very well restored Spitfire. Among the crowd of onlookers some one had the nerve to inform the guy that he had painted the aircraft in the incorrect colours. To which the pilot/owner just looked at him and asked: "oh, and what colour is your Spitfire then?"
                      The crowed laughed and the guy turned red and walked away.... lol
                      Group builds

                      Bismarck

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                      • Guest

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ian M
                        This all reminds me of a conversation at some air show or the other. Some guy had flown in in his very well restored Spitfire. Among the crowd of onlookers some one had the nerve to inform the guy that he had painted the aircraft in the incorrect colours. To which the pilot/owner just looked at him and asked: "oh, and what colour is your Spitfire then?"
                        The crowed laughed and the guy turned red and walked away.... lol
                        Just love that Ian very funny. Sarcasm at it's best just loved to have been there. Darned quick thinking.

                        Laurie

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                        • colin m
                          Moderator
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 8768
                          • Colin
                          • Stafford, UK

                          #27
                          I do try to do a decent job, but I often find myself slipping into the 'that'll do' sometimes. The odd sunken seam that I swear wasn't there yesterday, oh well......

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                          • Guest

                            #28
                            Originally posted by colin m
                            I do try to do a decent job, but I often find myself slipping into the 'that'll do' sometimes. The odd sunken seam that I swear wasn't there yesterday, oh well......
                            Colin that will be the leprechauns .

                            They are rampant in scale model workshops. Not seen but boy they cause havoc at night. The devastation.

                            Laurie

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                            • Guest

                              #29
                              Difficult. I like lots of detail even if it is lost. Just love PE.

                              For me it is the enjoyment I get out of the detail. I get sad when I see a kit which has little detail.

                              Embarking on an Islander Iarcraft. All the seating in the cabin is there. I know I will enjoy fitting & painting it. Yet when all is finished not seen.

                              Think of it in these terms. Roast beef, roast potatoes lovley gravey, roasted parsnips, sprouts (or cauliflowere if sprouts are out) & a spot of mustard.

                              All eaten in less than 15 minutes after hours of preparation. Just like model making in some respects. Golly I do like roasted parsnips. Similar enjoyment I get from painting pilots. Except my wife does the cooking. :tongue-out3:

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                              • AlanG
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 6296

                                #30
                                I think back to all the detailing i do in Fw190 cockpits when in reality, when the cockpit is complete and added to the body. You can see hardly anything of it. But i suppose that is the part when i go. "I know it's there".

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