Scale Model Shop

Collapse

Soldering Photo-Etch

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Guest

    #16
    Actually Paul you should not be touching the low temp solder. It is air heat which sends it off. You have to keep moving the heat source all the time to avoid buckling the PE.

    Also needs a heat source with a wide arc if possible as this disipates the heat over larger areas. Fascinating to watch as you wait & all of a sudden melts & that is it.
    It is a fabulous way to construct PE.

    Another advantage

    When you fold a piece the joints & corners always show a gap. Low Temp Solder fills those & are sandable to a good finish.
    The left picture on the outside the other on the inside with the solder joints.

    Laurie

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]n[/ATTACH]

    Comment

    • Tim Marlow
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 18926
      • Tim
      • Somerset UK

      #17
      That all looks great Laurie. Interesting that the PE can buckle though, that’s usually a sign of putting too much heat into the joint. What temp are you running the heat gun at? I wonder if you might get more controllable results with a higher temperature and a narrower jet. The low melt should flow like butter then, almost like waving a magic wand down the joint.

      Comment

      • Guest

        #18
        Originally posted by Tim Marlow
        That all looks great Laurie. Interesting that the PE can buckle though, that’s usually a sign of putting too much heat into the joint. What temp are you running the heat gun at? I wonder if you might get more controllable results with a higher temperature and a narrower jet. The low melt should flow like butter then, almost like waving a magic wand down the joint.
        No idea at what temp Tim. Just set it after practice. Should be about 130c with the solder I use. But heat depends a lot on you distance from the piece.. Just spray the heat 7 found this works.. Like all things model making you get your own technique.

        Laurie

        Comment

        • Bobby Conkers
          • Jan 2020
          • 529

          #19
          Every day is a school day here. I thought soldering was just dripping hot metal on to other metal.

          Comment

          • Tim Marlow
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 18926
            • Tim
            • Somerset UK

            #20
            Nah, that’s galvanising or tin plating. Soldering is like using a hot glue gun, only without the hot glue or the gun!

            Comment

            • boatman
              SMF Supporters
              • Nov 2018
              • 14498
              • christopher
              • NORFOLK UK

              #21
              HI Jon ive never spoken to you before as just never got roundClick image for larger version

Name:	IMG_5433.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	3.0 KB
ID:	1147568 to it as we on differnt subjects but on P/E could we see what P/E you are doin ? as i have done a fiarly big P/E RADAR PIC above against my hand so you can see its fairly big an i was goin to solder but the P/E is so thin its a job to get them to solder so i took the idea of SUPERGLUEIN 1mm sqaure plastic evergreen strips an then it was a lot easyier to glue togeather an i know this is not soldering but for me it was a lot easyier an ive done this on my other ships big radar's an they are still ok after 20yrs out in all sorts of heat from the sun an i must admit i did solder my last small radar as it was under alot of tenshion but for me supergluein is best
              chris

              Comment

              • boatman
                SMF Supporters
                • Nov 2018
                • 14498
                • christopher
                • NORFOLK UK

                #22
                AN IT came out ok an quite stronge finshed pic below
                chris ps hope you dont mind Jon of me putting my pics on your thread if you do say so an i'll remove them
                Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_6111.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	3.1 KB
ID:	1147570

                Comment

                • Guest

                  #23
                  Originally posted by boatman
                  HI Jon ive never spoken to you before as just never got round[ATTACH=CONFIG]n1147568[/ATTACH] to it as we on differnt subjects but on P/E could we see what P/E you are doin ? as i have done a fiarly big P/E RADAR PIC above against my hand so you can see its fairly big an i was goin to solder but the P/E is so thin its a job to get them to solder so i took the idea of SUPERGLUEIN 1mm sqaure plastic evergreen strips an then it was a lot easyier to glue togeather an i know this is not soldering but for me it was a lot easyier an ive done this on my other ships big radar's an they are still ok after 20yrs out in all sorts of heat from the sun an i must admit i did solder my last small radar as it was under alot of tenshion but for me supergluein is best
                  chris
                  Chris soldering with low temp solder is a doddle. Just apply solder as you would C/A. Then apply heat gun at low temp 10 secs joint made & strong.

                  Soldered many pieces of thin PE no problems as the low heat does not affect the PE. The low temp solder works at about 130 degrees & does not warp the PE.

                  Laurie

                  Comment

                  • Jon Heptonstall
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 1704

                    #24
                    Originally posted by boatman
                    AN IT came out ok an quite stronge finshed pic below
                    chris ps hope you dont mind Jon of me putting my pics on your thread if you do say so an i'll remove them
                    [ATTACH]418643[/ATTACH]
                    Hi Chris.You post away :thumb2:
                    I'm waiting for the 1/72 Flower Class and I've got a few bits and bats that will need soldering
                    Thanks for all the help everyone.
                    Jon.

                    Comment

                    • boatman
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Nov 2018
                      • 14498
                      • christopher
                      • NORFOLK UK

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Laurie
                      Chris soldering with low temp solder is a doddle. Just apply solder as you would C/A. Then apply heat gun at low temp 10 secs joint made & strong.

                      Soldered many pieces of thin PE no problems as the low heat does not affect the PE. The low temp solder works at about 130 degrees & does not warp the PE.

                      Laurie
                      HI AGAIN Jon exscuse me while just answer Laurie an hi Laurie yes i can solder fairly well not brilliant as you as in real life job i was a welder so i know the princibles behind soldering but i hav'nt got a low temp soldering iron an as this is my last big model i dint think it was worth buyin one as there is no more P/E on my tiger apart from the crane an thats nr built an thank you for pointing this out.

                      But for me supergluein the P/E is a lot easyier this is just my opinion an i know you think different an havin seen your work on that seaking P/E ITS BEEN DONE BY AN EXSPERT which is you Laurie an im not up to this standard of soldering you have done so we all just do the best we can to get the P/E unit built dont we.
                      An on my second smaller radar on the back of tigers main mast i soldered this only because it a very difficult shape bent like a banna on the sides an accross the top an bottom an the brass was all under tenshion an very difficult to solder pic below but its done to my sattisfaction so im happy Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_6117.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	2.2 KB
ID:	1147579

                      Comment

                      • boatman
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Nov 2018
                        • 14498
                        • christopher
                        • NORFOLK UK

                        #26
                        AN a shot of the nr finished small height finding radar on the back of tiger 's main mast an its on the learn because its fitted only losely on the shaft an it will straiten up when i fit it proberly an tighten up the allen screws on the shaft chris
                        Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_6121.JPG
Views:	0
Size:	3.0 KB
ID:	1147580

                        Comment

                        • boatman
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Nov 2018
                          • 14498
                          • christopher
                          • NORFOLK UK

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Jon Heptonstall
                          Hi Chris.You post away :thumb2:
                          I'm waiting for the 1/72 Flower Class and I've got a few bits and bats that will need soldering
                          Thanks for all the help everyone.
                          Jon.
                          AN HI again Jon a flower class eh will it be the HMS SNOWBERRY ? an i hope you will post this build on here as i would love to see it built an will it be a floaty or a static ?
                          chris

                          Comment

                          • Tim Marlow
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 18926
                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #28
                            Got to be HMS Compass Rose surely!

                            Comment

                            • boatman
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Nov 2018
                              • 14498
                              • christopher
                              • NORFOLK UK

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                              Got to be HMS Compass Rose surely!
                              YEA hi Tim that would be great as ive got that film on dvd an in my opinion its one of the best movies of the R/N in W/W/2 pity it wasnt in colour
                              chris

                              Comment

                              • Jon Heptonstall
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 1704

                                #30
                                Ha.Compass Rose if I can't get all the in the info on Bluebell.
                                static display if all goes well.
                                Jon.

                                Comment

                                Working...