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  • BattleshipBob
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 6792
    • Bob
    • Cardiff

    #1

    Annealing PE?

    Now i know what annealing is ( not that thick, honest) but how hot and for how long??

    I have a lighter but not sure?

    Sorry if it seams a bit of a silly question

    Ta bob
  • Jon Heptonstall
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 1704

    #2
    Hi Bob.
    A ciggie lighter works fine for smaller bits.It just needs to get red hot for a second or two.I only anneal for curvy bits.
    Jon.

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    • BattleshipBob
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 6792
      • Bob
      • Cardiff

      #3
      Originally posted by Jon Heptonstall
      Hi Bob.
      A ciggie lighter works fine for smaller bits.It just needs to get red hot for a second or two.I only anneal for curvy bits.
      Jon.
      Thanks Jon

      Appreciated, bob

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      • Mini Me
        SMF Supporters
        • Jun 2018
        • 10711

        #4
        For Brass I wouldn't go to Red hot to anneal.......could cause sagging or deformation......for something this thin just the color change to dull red or even less is sufficient with a quick quench. Been annealing brass cartridge cases for years......Rick H.

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        • BattleshipBob
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 6792
          • Bob
          • Cardiff

          #5
          Originally posted by Mini Me
          For Brass I wouldn't go to Red hot to anneal.......could cause sagging or deformation......for something this thin just the color change to dull red or even less is sufficient with a quick quench. Been annealing brass cartridge cases for years......Rick H.
          Many thanks Rick, very much appreciated

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          • Dave Ward
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 10549

            #6
            If you don't have a ciggy lighter ( I ditched mine when I stopped smoking 20 years ago! ) I didn't - I bought some of these
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            Made for lighting gas burners - you can get them at really cheap prices & are a lot more comfortable than a ciggy lighter!
            Dave

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            • stillp
              SMF Supporters
              • Nov 2016
              • 8090
              • Pete
              • Rugby

              #7
              Be careful that very thin parts don't overheat Bob. If you have an old PE fret you could put the part of the fret you want to anneal on top of a wide part of the old fret and heat that with your lighter.
              Pete

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              • Steve Jones
                • Apr 2018
                • 6615

                #8
                JR invites Bob around for his latest PE annealing session

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                • BattleshipBob
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 6792
                  • Bob
                  • Cardiff

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dave Ward
                  If you don't have a ciggy lighter ( I ditched mine when I stopped smoking 20 years ago! ) I didn't - I bought some of these
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                  Made for lighting gas burners - you can get them at really cheap prices & are a lot more comfortable than a ciggy lighter!
                  Dave
                  Thanks Dave, got a ciggy lighter, never smoked lol
                  Originally posted by stillp
                  Be careful that very thin parts don't overheat Bob. If you have an old PE fret you could put the part of the fret you want to anneal on top of a wide part of the old fret and heat that with your lighter.
                  Pete
                  Thats a good idea Pete!!
                  Originally posted by Steve Jones
                  JR invites Bob around for his latest PE annealing session

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                  Cracking, not yet hot enough!

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                  • Mini Me
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Jun 2018
                    • 10711

                    #10
                    Hey Steve, That looks like my place last Saturday night.......had the kids and grand kids out for a BBQ and a Bonfire.......no joke, at least that big. burned for 2 days. :thumb2: Rick H.

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                    • adt70hk
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Sep 2019
                      • 10402

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Steve Jones
                      JR invites Bob around for his latest PE annealing session

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                      Count me in!!

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                      • yak face
                        Moderator
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 13831
                        • Tony
                        • Sheffield

                        #12
                        Might seem obvious bob but make sure you hold the pe with pliers , it conducts heat VERY fast !

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          Silly question.

                          Why do you anneal what difference does it make.

                          I have been using PE for 20 years. Should I change procedures ?

                          Laurie

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                          • yak face
                            Moderator
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 13831
                            • Tony
                            • Sheffield

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Laurie
                            Silly question.

                            Why do you anneal what difference does it make.

                            I have been using PE for 20 years. Should I change procedures ?

                            Laurie
                            It makes it more flexible laurie - easier to fold box shapes and drape seat belts better . Done before painting so obviously not recommended for the pre painted PE frets ( eduard Zoom etc )

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                            • Tim Marlow
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 18894
                              • Tim
                              • Somerset UK

                              #15
                              It can also make some grades of brass too soft to work properly so It’s best to trial it first on scrap etch. I honestly think it’s only really of use on things like seat belts. If the brass is too soft it can make things worse rather than better....
                              Anything that has a regular shape or constant curve should be bent around formers. If you are likely to use a lot of etch brass in your modelling, the best investment you can probably make is a pair of high quality box jointed flat jawed pliers. Almost all of the small bends you need to make can be quickly and easily formed with them.

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