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    #16
    Originally posted by yak face
    It makes it more flexible laurie - easier to fold box shapes and drape seat belts better . Done before painting so obviously not recommended for the pre painted PE frets ( eduard Zoom etc )
    Thanks Tony. next Question why in 20 years has this been a secret. :tongue-out3:

    Originally posted by Tim Marlow
    It can also make some grades of brass too soft to work properly so It’s best to trial it first on scrap etch. I honestly think it’s only really of use on things like seat belts. If the brass is too soft it can make things worse rather than better....
    Anything that has a regular shape or constant curve should be bent around formers. If you are likely to use a lot of etch brass in your modelling, the best investment you can probably make is a pair of high quality box jointed flat jawed pliers. Almost all of the small bends you need to make can be quickly and easily formed with them.
    Just shows how we are all different Tim. My pliers are all in a box. I use a Hold & Fold Small Shop the large mode. Expensive (tried cheap first) but sturdy & so many facilities.

    Plus being vintage I find it easier to position with two (vintage) hands loose. Horses for Courses or let your friends direct your movies .

    Laurie

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    • BattleshipBob
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 6792
      • Bob
      • Cardiff

      #17
      The reason why i asked is the PE seams stiff and the chap i watched on YT mentioned this so used a candle??

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      • Tim Marlow
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        • Apr 2018
        • 18901
        • Tim
        • Somerset UK

        #18
        The thing to be aware of Bob is that annealing does make it easier to put bends in PE, but it doesn’t necessarily make it easier to put a clean bend in PE.

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        • Dave Ward
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 10549

          #19
          Annealing can also help if you've made an error! Trying to undo a poor bend can cause the material to crack ( work hardening ), annealing the bend will soften it & give you another chance...............
          Dave

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          • Guest

            #20
            Originally posted by Dave Ward
            Annealing can also help if you've made an error! Trying to undo a poor bend can cause the material to crack ( work hardening ), annealing the bend will soften it & give you another chance...............
            Dave
            In my case Dave how many chances :tongue-out3:

            Laurie

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            • rtfoe
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              • Apr 2018
              • 9074

              #21
              Gee Whizz...I prefer stiffer brass or copper PE to work with the little parts. They're so easy to bend. What you need is the proper tools to hold the parts for bending or formers and a good rubbing down. A good set or pair of eyes also help. Stainless steel PE with well placed stress points for bending are what I like.

              Annealing for seatbelts I suppose is a must but I prefer tape or paper for it.

              Cheers,
              Richard

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              • Guest

                #22
                Originally posted by rtfoe
                Gee Whizz...I prefer stiffer brass or copper PE to work with the little parts. They're so easy to bend. What you need is the proper tools to hold the parts for bending or formers and a good rubbing down. A good set or pair of eyes also help. Stainless steel PE with well placed stress points for bending are what I like.

                Annealing for seatbelts I suppose is a must but I prefer tape or paper for it.

                Cheers,
                Richard
                Richard where do you get paper seat belts ? Brass never looks authentic to me. :flushed:

                Laurie

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                • rtfoe
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                  • Apr 2018
                  • 9074

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Laurie
                  Richard where do you get paper seat belts ? Brass never looks authentic to me. :flushed:

                  Laurie
                  Laurie, Kamazukuri do paper seatbelts in 1/72 and 48. Also rifle belt straps. I've got the US, German and British 1/48 seatbelts. If I'm not mistaken Eduard also do paper seatbelts. I haven't used my Kamazukuri belts yet as I still like making my own from masking tape and fuse wire.

                  Cheers,
                  Richard

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                  • Dave Ward
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                    • Apr 2018
                    • 10549

                    #24
                    Originally posted by rtfoe
                    Laurie, Kamazukuri do paper seatbelts in 1/72 and 48. Also rifle belt straps. I've got the US, German and British 1/48 seatbelts. If I'm not mistaken Eduard also do paper seatbelts. I haven't used my Kamazukuri belts yet as I still like making my own from masking tape and fuse wire.

                    Cheers,
                    Richard
                    Richard,
                    Kamazukuri? - a search doesn't throw any hits up for model accessories - have you a link?
                    Cheers,
                    Dave

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                    • Airborne01
                      • Mar 2021
                      • 3964
                      • Steve
                      • Essex

                      #25
                      Originally posted by rtfoe
                      Gee Whizz...I prefer stiffer brass or copper PE to work with the little parts. They're so easy to bend. What you need is the proper tools to hold the parts for bending or formers and a good rubbing down. A good set or pair of eyes also help. Stainless steel PE with well placed stress points for bending are what I like.

                      Annealing for seatbelts I suppose is a must but I prefer tape or paper for it.

                      Cheers,
                      Richard
                      Oh my God - what's better than a good rubbing down ...!

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                      • Guest

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Airborne01
                        Oh my God - what's better than a good rubbing down ...!
                        Depends on the type of rubbing down. Pity I have little imagination :rolling::tongue-out3::hungry:

                        Laurie

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                        • rtfoe
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                          • Apr 2018
                          • 9074

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Dave Ward
                          Richard,
                          Kamazukuri? - a search doesn't throw any hits up for model accessories - have you a link?
                          Cheers,
                          Dave
                          My apologies Dave, I spelt it wrong...it's Kamizukuri. Got their price list from Passion Models when was in Shizuoka last so could have changed by now.

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                          http//www.kamizukuri.jp

                          Cheers,
                          Richard

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                          • rtfoe
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 9074

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Airborne01
                            Oh my God - what's better than a good rubbing down ...!
                            Down boy...down :tears-of-joy: let's get civil or we won't get things done.

                            Cheers,
                            Richard

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