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    #91
    Originally posted by Tim Marlow
    it seems like the most artistically painted model that wins. This is not the most accurately painted model, but it is the one that visually “pops” on the table.
    That’s what I meant with “best-painted”, though I should probably have put it a bit differently. “Best” as in: most artistically, not most accurately.

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    • boatman
      SMF Supporters
      • Nov 2018
      • 14451
      • christopher
      • NORFOLK UK

      #92
      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
      Nothing wrong with anyone taking part in competitions, I just don’t feel the need to turn my hobby into a competitive sport :tongue-out3:
      Yes very true Tim as if it was a seriousl competition then i would not bother to take part as you say our hobby is just that a hobby to enjoy an have fun doin it
      chris

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      • Isitme
        • Nov 2020
        • 795

        #93
        This now puts me into a quandry, will I be looked at as just a competition modeller, or will I be looked at as just another modeller, should I just say goodbye now and retire to my lofty castle and look down on the mere mortals down there in model land.
        I have entered competitions because I enjoy the fun of comic rivalry, meeting new modellers and old friends and even some from this forum.
        Models - ALL of my models start out as a kit - be that kit a dog or a thoroughbred, I then put my skills learned and still learning into my build, and many on here have seen the results and the total disasters, have read my rants about certain manufacturers and their expensive trash bin fillers and taken what information I have added to my blogs as usefull information.
        A model is what you the modelmaker make of it - whether it cost a small fortune or you scratchbuilt every part from a mere sheet of plasticard - it is your model and yours alone. Just because you choose to enter a competition does not make you any different as a modelmaker, you are still a modelmaker, so stop the whining and get back to doing what you enjoy, and if whining is your passion then at least you are happy.

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        • Isitme
          • Nov 2020
          • 795

          #94
          Originally posted by boatman
          Yes very true Tim as if it was a seriousl competition then i would not bother to take part as you say our hobby is just that a hobby to enjoy an have fun doin it
          chris
          And in the competition hall, we have seen those very serious ones, who take it all far to seriously..

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          • boatman
            SMF Supporters
            • Nov 2018
            • 14451
            • christopher
            • NORFOLK UK

            #95
            Originally posted by Isitme
            And in the competition hall, we have seen those very serious ones, who take it all far to seriously..
            WELL Mike all i can say is thats up to them but all they are doin is upsettin themselves if they dont win any trophys or such but thats not for me as i said to me its just a bit of fun of jionin in an i will still enjoy the day at a show ps when there is a show as they have cancceled all our shows around where i live due to corvid
            chris

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            • rtfoe
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 9072

              #96
              Perhaps with the ratings, a suggestion of tools may be appropriate... :smiling6:

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              Cheers,
              Richard

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              • JR
                • May 2015
                • 18273

                #97
                Originally posted by rtfoe
                Perhaps with the ratings, a suggestion of tools may be appropriate... :smiling6:

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]n1157090[/ATTACH]

                Cheers,
                Richard
                Oh so true Richard.:smiling3:

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                • JR
                  • May 2015
                  • 18273

                  #98
                  I remember watching a guy on U tube who built kits for Airfix. They gave him the kit and he would set too and build, making notes on the build as he went. He didn't get paid other than having the kit.
                  I wish I could find this clip as it struck me that a company like that would take advantage of a skilled modeller to test out their product and not offer him any payment.

                  Many of you are superb modellers where as my modelling skills with plastic parts are some what lacking, so I resort to damage and of course the use of fire ! Some of the instructions I find are pitiful and confusing. This you might find strange as I spent years reading and making drawings for woodworking and joinery.

                  I derive more pleasure, ( that 's what this whole thing is about) in making the dio, rather than the actual kit.
                  So to me the back ground is as important if not more so than the model !

                  At the end of the day its for relaxation ! and fun. So i'm told

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                  • Gern
                    SMF Supporters
                    • May 2009
                    • 9211

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Isitme
                    This now puts me into a quandry, will I be looked at as just a competition modeller, or will I be looked at as just another modeller, should I just say goodbye now and retire to my lofty castle and look down on the mere mortals down there in model land.
                    I have entered competitions because I enjoy the fun of comic rivalry, meeting new modellers and old friends and even some from this forum.
                    Models - ALL of my models start out as a kit - be that kit a dog or a thoroughbred, I then put my skills learned and still learning into my build, and many on here have seen the results and the total disasters, have read my rants about certain manufacturers and their expensive trash bin fillers and taken what information I have added to my blogs as usefull information.
                    A model is what you the modelmaker make of it - whether it cost a small fortune or you scratchbuilt every part from a mere sheet of plasticard - it is your model and yours alone. Just because you choose to enter a competition does not make you any different as a modelmaker, you are still a modelmaker, so stop the whining and get back to doing what you enjoy, and if whining is your passion then at least you are happy.
                    I can't see anyone here being judgemental about whether you enter competitions or not Mike. Just like the rest of us, it's your hobby to follow how you please, and we got a fair few guys like you who enter competitions more for the fun of it than the chance to earn a cupboardful of trophies.

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                    • Guest

                      #100
                      Originally posted by rtfoe
                      Perhaps with the ratings, a suggestion of tools may be appropriate... :smiling6:

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]n1157090[/ATTACH]

                      Cheers,
                      Richard
                      Don't tell me Valom make another kit as bad as their 1/72 Handley-Page Hampden ....

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                      • dalej2014
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Aug 2021
                        • 507

                        #101
                        This is an interesting thread, so I'm "chipping in" (pun intended) with my thoughts. There appears to have been a lot of digression and discussion from the OP which, while fine in it's own right, doesn't perhaps expand on the original post. While fairly well any review is subjective, I think (and someone already mentioned?) you need have certain criteria, and they must remain consistent. Then you need a scale (oh look, another pun! Shoot it before it runs...) to measure them by. So trying to get back on topic here are a few I think would work. They're by no means all, or even the best. Just what occurs. I'd say the easiest scale is a simple 1 to 10. 1 being a pig's ear, and a 10 absolute perfection.

                        Value for money - what you get, for what you pay
                        Accuracy - is the kit faithful to the subject. Are the decals. Is the paint guide accurate etc?
                        Build quality - by this I mean the parts fitting, and general model ""friendliness"
                        Adaptability - one for the converters and detailing. Can the base model be modified? e.g. a Panzer kit used for different "marks" and so on. Could also include optional parts provided and so on.
                        Reference - are the references provided accurate and useful? Are there pictures of the interior (if applicable). Web links for references etc. (Do kit manufacturer's do this? If they don't, why not?)
                        Overall - adding the above we'll get a scale from 5 - 50.

                        It may not be ideal, but it's a start. Thoughts?

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                        • scottie3158
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 14199
                          • Paul
                          • Holbeach

                          #102
                          Originally posted by Isitme
                          This now puts me into a quandry, will I be looked at as just a competition modeller, or will I be looked at as just another modeller, should I just say goodbye now and retire to my lofty castle and look down on the mere mortals down there in model land.
                          I have entered competitions because I enjoy the fun of comic rivalry, meeting new modellers and old friends and even some from this forum.
                          Models - ALL of my models start out as a kit - be that kit a dog or a thoroughbred, I then put my skills learned and still learning into my build, and many on here have seen the results and the total disasters, have read my rants about certain manufacturers and their expensive trash bin fillers and taken what information I have added to my blogs as usefull information.
                          A model is what you the modelmaker make of it - whether it cost a small fortune or you scratchbuilt every part from a mere sheet of plasticard - it is your model and yours alone. Just because you choose to enter a competition does not make you any different as a modelmaker, you are still a modelmaker, so stop the whining and get back to doing what you enjoy, and if whining is your passion then at least you are happy.
                          Mike,
                          I agree entirely and your thoughts reflect my own.

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                          • Guest

                            #103
                            I won't quote dalej2014's post above but while I agree with the sentiment expressed, I honestly don't think it's possible to have a satisfactory and useful rating system for the simple reason that there are just so many subjective aspects of a model kit that cannot be rated. One example (and there are many others) - the latest molds being produced for 1/72 scale aircraft are quite amazing for fine detail and would rate highly on any subjective scoring. However, this doesn't take into account the model builder's ability to cope with minute pieces requiring a very steady hand and impeccable eyesight. I've reached the stage where I'm really struggling to cope with finely detailed 1/72 scale kits, but this should never be held as a negative against the kit.

                            I've also been a fountain pen user and collector for many years and that hobby has very similar issues around rating pens with the same challenges arising in regards to the numerous subjective aspects of an item. I find that a good review (preferably with video or images) works best in that I can discern the features of the product that effect me personally.

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                            • Isitme
                              • Nov 2020
                              • 795

                              #104
                              Originally posted by rtfoe
                              Perhaps with the ratings, a suggestion of tools may be appropriate... :smiling6:

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]n1157090[/ATTACH]

                              Cheers,
                              Richard
                              LOL Except you forgot the most important item on JR's bench - the matches!!!

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                              • rtfoe
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 9072

                                #105
                                Originally posted by Isitme
                                LOL Except you forgot the most important item on JR's bench - the matches!!!
                                Ya and the hammer switched for a blow torch. :tears-of-joy:

                                Cheers,
                                Richard

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