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  • JR
    • May 2015
    • 18273

    #31
    Originally posted by Laurie
    John I am the Un-Honouary member of the International Institute for the Bench Tidy Organisation. BTO.

    Bench tidy before I start work. Tidied after each operation ie putting wings together, or making props.

    Try it John, if you dare, saves time, tools are in the right place, sanders in the carousel. airbrush clean.

    I pull my bed out from under the Falklands diorama each night get into bed & dream of my bench tidy & clean. :tongue-out2::tongue-out3::sleeping::sleeping::sleeping::sleeping:

    Laurie

    Quoting Winston Spencer Churchill

    “Evils can be created much quicker than they can be cured.”

    Believe he had your work bench in mind John :dizzy::flushed::smiling:
    I'm luckily to be able to just stop and go back into thew main house. But now I shall take that quote from Winston Churchill as made directly to me and try .
    ( 0h dear what have I let my self in for.)

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    • Guest

      #32
      Originally posted by John Race
      I'm luckily to be able to just stop and go back into thew main house. But now I shall take that quote from Winston Churchill as made directly to me and try .
      ( 0h dear what have I let my self in for.)
      John. A deep & thorough inspection by Barry next week. I would accompany if you send the airfare.

      Laurie

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      • Ian M
        Administrator
        • Dec 2008
        • 18269
        • Ian
        • Falster, Denmark

        #33
        I would take the lager of the two rooms for the cave and the smaller for the bedroom. a) you'll probably spend more time in the cave and need more space, b) at the worst the most you will be doing in the bedroom is sleep.
        Down to the local B&Q or what ever the DIY shops you have are called. Have a look at kitchen worktops. I had them in my room a large L shaped one in the one corner and a smaller in the other. The big one for builds and the smaller one for paint. The type with a rounded front edge are kind to arms that rest on the edge.
        As for a chair... I have a "cheep" gamers chair. Good support to neck and lumbar, and all the usual swivel and tilt up and down things. Got mine in Jysk, for the 1/3 of the cost of a "propper furnishers".
        Natural light as much as possible, but if like me you have south facing windows, they can be a pain in the summer.
        Dont know if you have the option of one but if the apartments allow it consider an extractor... you can always say its for extra ventilation due to "dust allergies". And it can always be returned to just a vent, if you move again...
        Group builds

        Bismarck

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        • Guest

          #34
          Just thought I would mention windows & colour temperature.
          Having during my working life worked in both architecture &
          video work I found the huge difference during the day, &
          affected by weather, the colour temperature.

          Using pure daylight can enormously affect the colours
          you choose & the mixing of colours.

          The chart below gives how colours change. Plus which part of day
          the colours are.

          The beauty of artificial light at 6000 kelvin over your work top will
          give a constant colour representation all the time. A window will
          give the colours warm to cool as below during the day..

          Also has a very dramatic influence on the lighting that you display
          your models in.

          Cameras & Video machines over come this. You set the colour temperature
          & the cameras will compensate for all eventualities. Human eyes do not.

          Laurie


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          A diagram of color temperature. As color temperature decreases, white becomes yellow, then red. As color temperature increases, white gradually turns to blue. Note that this diagram is merely a rough representation of how to think about color temperatures, not a precise indication of color temperatures under specific conditions.
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          • Tim Marlow
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 18903
            • Tim
            • Somerset UK

            #35
            Very good point made by Laurie there. “Daylight” lighting is certainly best for painting and is less tiring on the eyes when working. My room has both background lighting in daylight quality and the task light in daylight quality. I also have a floor standing daylight reading task light set up behind my usual chair in the lounge. 6500 Kelvin is what you are looking for, 500 K doesn’t cut it. I’d recommend that sort of lighting for kitchens and offices as well.

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            • BarryW
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              • Jul 2011
              • 6012

              #36
              Originally posted by Ian M
              I would take the lager of the two rooms for the cave and the smaller for the bedroom. a) you'll probably spend more time in the cave and need more space, b) at the worst the most you will be doing in the bedroom is sleep.
              Down to the local B&Q or what ever the DIY shops you have are called. Have a look at kitchen worktops. I had them in my room a large L shaped one in the one corner and a smaller in the other. The big one for builds and the smaller one for paint. The type with a rounded front edge are kind to arms that rest on the edge.
              As for a chair... I have a "cheep" gamers chair. Good support to neck and lumbar, and all the usual swivel and tilt up and down things. Got mine in Jysk, for the 1/3 of the cost of a "propper furnishers".
              Natural light as much as possible, but if like me you have south facing windows, they can be a pain in the summer.
              Dont know if you have the option of one but if the apartments allow it consider an extractor... you can always say its for extra ventilation due to "dust allergies". And it can always be returned to just a vent, if you move again...
              Some good points there Ian. Both rooms are ‘double’ bedrooms and both are plenty large enough. I will see next week, but I do think that the two windows and their positioning in the larger room might reduce the display space compared to the smaller.

              Now, using a bedroom ONLY for sleeping…. Mmm now that’s a novel thought. Better not say any more on that subject, let’s just say that I am not totally giving up on the ladies despite my age.

              I expect to spend on it typically, about 2 hours modelling a day.

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              • Ian M
                Administrator
                • Dec 2008
                • 18269
                • Ian
                • Falster, Denmark

                #37
                Originally posted by BarryW
                I expect to spend on it typically, about 2 hours modelling a day.
                What the cave or the bedroom. :tongue-out3:
                Group builds

                Bismarck

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                • wotan
                  SMF Supporters
                  • May 2018
                  • 1150

                  #38
                  As far as lights are concerned Barry you might want to consider something like this that I use.

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                  This is a light panel made by VILTROX. It is about 19cm X 12cm and can run on mains or battery pack. The beauty of this device is that it can be adjusted both in brightness and in Kelvin number as you can see in the attached photos of the rear control panel. It can be mounted on a camera type mount and attached to a flexible stand so that it can be positioned as required. Check them out on Amazon.

                  John

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                  • BarryW
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 6012

                    #39
                    Well I have the keys, the sale is completed and it has been a busy day. Tomorrow meetings with kitchen designer, electrician, decorator and a bed is being delivered. But the modelling room is not forgotten.

                    I have made a decision on the smaller of the two for the following reasons:
                    1/ There is only one window so I can maximise shelf space.
                    2/ The window is a ‘bottom opener’ so it will be easier to position the spray booth and dangle the extraction pipe out of it. In the other room they are centre openers so the spray booth would have to be in front of a window.
                    3/ The built in wardrobe seems a bit better for the storage of modelling supplies. This will help keep stuff off the floor and keep the display shelves for models.
                    4/ The door and wardrobe door are positioned so ‘wall space’ is maximised.
                    5/ The measurements are that much better for the workspace with little or no wasted space.

                    Some pics.
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                    I will post as soon as I have some more news. Flooring next, someone in to measure up on Friday.
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                    • Jim R
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 15696
                      • Jim
                      • Shropshire

                      #40
                      Exciting times ahead. Coordinating workmen is a trial.
                      Jim

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                      • JR
                        • May 2015
                        • 18273

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Jim R
                        Exciting times ahead. Coordinating workmen is a trial.
                        Jim
                        :smiling: very true, trying to co-ordinate different trades was something I hated Jim .
                        No one can come on the day required esp plumbers !

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                        • Tim Marlow
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                          • Apr 2018
                          • 18903
                          • Tim
                          • Somerset UK

                          #42
                          Originally posted by John Race
                          :smiling: very true, trying to co-ordinate different trades was something I hated Jim .
                          No one can come on the day required esp plumbers !
                          Yes, but if you keep them well supplied with tea and biscuits they are much more helpful and accommodating!

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                          • JR
                            • May 2015
                            • 18273

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                            Yes, but if you keep them well supplied with tea and biscuits they are much more helpful and accommodating!
                            I wanted them to work , not stand about so we could get on with fitting :smiling3::smiling3::nerd:

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                            • Jim R
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                              • Apr 2018
                              • 15696
                              • Jim
                              • Shropshire

                              #44
                              The worst we had was the carpet fitters arrived to fit the main bedroom carpet when the decorator was painting the skirting boards. Luckily they just laughed and happily came back a few days later.
                              I do agree that tea/coffee and biscuits and a bit of friendly banter really helps things to go smoothly.

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                              • boatman
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                                • Nov 2018
                                • 14476
                                • christopher
                                • NORFOLK UK

                                #45
                                Now, using a bedroom ONLY for sleeping…. Mmm now that’s a novel thought. Better not say any more on that subject, let’s just say that I am not totally giving up on the ladies despite my age.
                                (Barry qoute)

                                WELL said Barry got to keep in with the ladies lol no harm in having a lady freind hope you find one who dont mind your modeling side
                                chris

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