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  • BattleshipBob
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    • Apr 2018
    • 6792
    • Bob
    • Cardiff

    #1

    Removing seams off funnels?

    Morning all

    Just started the funnels on Tashkent, i have a flexi file but after what seems a lot of sanding the seam is still visable. Am i doing this right??
  • boatman
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    • Nov 2018
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    • christopher
    • NORFOLK UK

    #2
    Originally posted by Bobthestug
    Morning all

    Just started the funnels on Tashkent, i have a flexi file but after what seems a lot of sanding the seam is still visable. Am i doing this right??
    WELL Bobm8 if i was doin it id file off the worst of the seam then get some very fine wet an dry sandpaper an sand it down usein water to clean out the sand paper an your seam should gradually go so its so smooth not to notice but again Bob just try your best as noone can ask for more hows that but the other members may have their ways of doin it
    chris

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    • BattleshipBob
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      • Apr 2018
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      • Bob
      • Cardiff

      #3
      Morning Chris, biggest fear is losing the curve of the funnel!

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      • dalej2014
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        • Aug 2021
        • 507

        #4
        I'd scrape off the worst of the flash with a knife blade (adzing the flash) then move onto wet and dry, very fine grit - 1500 to 3000. If the seams don't quite match up you may need to lay a very thin bead/sausage of fine putty along the two edges, then adze and sand. It's a tedious job, but makes a massive difference to the finish. Best of luck.

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        • boatman
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          • Nov 2018
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          • christopher
          • NORFOLK UK

          #5
          YES i see what you mean Bob m8 but then dale thinks like me in my answer so there you go you have your answer so get stuck in lol
          chris

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          • Mark1
            • Apr 2021
            • 4156

            #6
            What your sanding with should have a hard surface,anything soft will ride over the shape of the seam

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            • Guest

              #7
              Is it only visible, or can you also feel it with your fingertip and/or fingernail? If you can’t feel it, you probably won’t see it either once a coat of paint has gone over it. Which is the best way to check, by the way: paint the seam and its immediate surrounding area.

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              • BattleshipBob
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                • Apr 2018
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                • Bob
                • Cardiff

                #8
                Originally posted by dalej2014
                I'd scrape off the worst of the flash with a knife blade (adzing the flash) then move onto wet and dry, very fine grit - 1500 to 3000. If the seams don't quite match up you may need to lay a very thin bead/sausage of fine putty along the two edges, then adze and sand. It's a tedious job, but makes a massive difference to the finish. Best of luck.
                Many thanks Dale
                Originally posted by Mark1
                What your sanding with should have a hard surface,anything soft will ride over the shape of the seam
                Thank you Mark
                Originally posted by Jakko
                Is it only visible, or can you also feel it with your fingertip and/or fingernail? If you can’t feel it, you probably won’t see it either once a coat of paint has gone over it. Which is the best way to check, by the way: paint the seam and its immediate surrounding area.
                Thanks Jakko

                Have read that if you run a marker pen over the seam and then sand until the pen mark goes??

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                • BattleshipBob
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                  • Apr 2018
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                  • Bob
                  • Cardiff

                  #9
                  Not many seams on a StuG lol

                  Always thought you had to sand until the seam line has gone??

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                  • boatman
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                    • Nov 2018
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                    • christopher
                    • NORFOLK UK

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bobthestug
                    Not many seams on a StuG lol

                    Always thought you had to sand until the seam line has gone??
                    WELL Bob m8 if you keep sanding you will go right through but do as dale has said with sandin then build it up with putty to retain your funnel roundness is the way to go
                    chris

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                    • Jim R
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                      • Apr 2018
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                      • Jim
                      • Shropshire

                      #11
                      Jakko is right. Sand until it feels smooth. The line in the plastic may well still be visible. Priming that area will show whether the seam is still there. If you do find the seam needs filling I paint Mr S 500 along it and then sand again.
                      Jim

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                      • Jim R
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                        • Apr 2018
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                        • Jim
                        • Shropshire

                        #12
                        With a StuG all problem areas can be dealt with with a liberal application of mud glorious mud. Mud halfway up a warship's funnel however just wouldn't work. :rolling: :hungry:

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                        • Steve Jones
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 6615

                          #13
                          If you sand in a circular motion it reduces the risk of mishaping the area

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                          • BattleshipBob
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                            • Apr 2018
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                            • Bob
                            • Cardiff

                            #14
                            Originally posted by boatman
                            WELL Bob m8 if you keep sanding you will go right through but do as dale has said with sandin then build it up with putty to retain your funnel roundness is the way to go
                            chris
                            Thanks Chris, will not use the black an decker then lol
                            Originally posted by Jim R
                            Jakko is right. Sand until it feels smooth. The line in the plastic may well still be visible. Priming that area will show whether the seam is still there. If you do find the seam needs filling I paint Mr S 500 along it and then sand again.
                            Jim
                            Thanks Jim, appreciated
                            Originally posted by Jim R
                            With a StuG all problem areas can be dealt with with a liberal application of mud glorious mud. Mud halfway up a warship's funnel however just wouldn't work. :rolling: :hungry:
                            Bugger thats, that idea down the plug hole lol, luv mud!!
                            Originally posted by Steve Jones
                            If you sand in a circular motion it reduces the risk of mishaping the area
                            Lovely, thanks Steve!

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                            • Tim Marlow
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                              • Apr 2018
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                              • Tim
                              • Somerset UK

                              #15
                              Hi Bob. On a curved surface the best way to sand a seam is to sand wet at 45 degrees to that seam. That will minimise the possibility of thruppenny bitting the part, ending up with flat spots. It’s standard practice in model railway loco building to ensure the boiler remains round.
                              Your idea of marking the seam before work is a good one, but if there is an appreciable cavity in the seam I would fill it first.

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