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  • AlanG
    • Dec 2008
    • 6296

    #1

    WWII German Rifle Wood Colour?

    What wood was the German rifles/assault rifles made out of? And to that point. What colour Vallejo Model Colour paint would suffice to start as a base for said wood?
  • stillp
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    • Nov 2016
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    • Pete
    • Rugby

    #2
    Originally posted by AlanG
    What wood was the German rifles/assault rifles made out of? And to that point. What colour Vallejo Model Colour paint would suffice to start as a base for said wood?
    Go to https://www.youtube.com/c/ForgottenWeapons/videos and search for the specific weapon, and you'll probably find he's featured one.
    Pete

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    • Guest

      #3
      And points out all the minute differences between different K98s

      But as an actual answer: the wood differed depending on which timeframe you’re looking at. Pre-war rifles used far better-quality wood than those produced towards the end, and were probably also varnished better. Generally speaking, and IIRC, pre- and early-war rifles had a medium to fairly deep brown colour, while late(r)-war rifles tended to have a lighter colour of wood.

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      • JayCee
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        • Aug 2019
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        #4
        If I remember correctly, pre and early war stocks would be walnut. late war ones tended to be laminated, possibly Birch.
        John.

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        • The Smythe Meister
          • Jan 2019
          • 6248

          #5
          Hi Alan,
          They say "A picture paints a thousand words" so......
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          ..... I use these,they mix and cover very nicely,and cover pretty much any weapon you need to do :thumb2:,HTHs
          Andy

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          • langy71
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            • Apr 2018
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            • Chris
            • Nottingham

            #6
            If and when I need to paint some 'woodwork' on a weapon, I start with an initial base of Tamiya dark yellow, or Buff, and then when It's dry I give it a coat of brown oil paint,

            the more coats the deeper the wood brown colour, and it will also help create the wooden grain effect in the wood parts..

            HTH

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            • Tim Marlow
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              • Apr 2018
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              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #7
              Alternatively, use VJ burnt umber as a base, and highlight with a mix of umber and mahogany….top highlights being straight mahogany. You can also mix in flat brown to get variety in the shades.

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              • Mini Me
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                • Jun 2018
                • 10711

                #8
                Originally posted by JayCee
                If I remember correctly, pre and early war stocks would be walnut. late war ones tended to be laminated, possibly Birch.
                John.
                Close John, actually Beech wood. The pre and early war pieces tended to be mostly Walnut of various types hence the color differentiation as Jakko explained earlier.
                Yours truly Mr. Mauser

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                • Ian M
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                  • Dec 2008
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                  • Ian
                  • Falster, Denmark

                  #9
                  Pure guesswork but the most prominent hardwood trees in the region would be a fair bet; oak, ash or beech. Ash could be a good bet as it's faster growing than oak, which might also have been earmarked for ships decking.....
                  Most of the pioneer tools used oak or ash.
                  Group builds

                  Bismarck

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                  • JayCee
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                    • Aug 2019
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                    #10
                    Cheers for the correction Rick. I knew it began with a 'B' . .
                    John.

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                    • Tim Marlow
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                      • Apr 2018
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                      • Tim
                      • Somerset UK

                      #11
                      Well, I know it can sometimes be inaccurate, but Wiki states they had walnut, beech, or elm laminate stocks from 1937. The solid stocks probably pre date this.
                      Some pictures here….
                      German K98 Stocks and Wood Types (Article and pics courtesy of "rcmauser") "Here are few pics comparing laminated and solid wood k98 stocks styles that you might find helpful. The first four pics are of laminated stocks. Laminated stocks are made from beech wood strips that are glued together similar to the plywood manufacturing process . These examples use the red glue in between the laminations. There is a white glue variation out there, also. Not as common as the red glue. You can see laminations and how the red glue is highlighted. The dark one is wearing the russian capture shellac. The second set of four show solid wood k98 stocks. The bottom stock is a post war solid beech wood Israeli stock... This style is sometimes confused with laminated stocks. .......... rcmauser" "You may leave a general comment by signing the guest book, at the bottom of this album page."

                      They are various colours. The paints I stated earlier will work, especially as the stock would be stained and darkened in use. To my eye the Mig colours pictured do not have the slight “green” tinge that is evident in some of these examples. They will be fine for others though.

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                      • Guest

                        #12
                        Forgotten Weapons was mentioned earlier, and I suddenly remembered he has a video with side-by-side comparisons of K98s from different years or production, which nicely shows how the colour of the stock changed too:

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                        • spanner570
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                          • May 2009
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                          #13
                          Allan, keep in mind it doesn't matter what type of tree the weapon stocks were made from. A tree, any tree doesn't grow with a consistent colour/shade and will be slightly different when it's cut up and machined. That is mother nature's way.

                          So there is no one on this planet who can say which shade or colour is correct. All wooden stocks will be slightly different. Now, let's discuss the varying grains!:dizzy:

                          Ron

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                          • AlanG
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 6296

                            #14
                            Also have to consider it getting worn when in use in a battlefield. I think i'll just wing it and choose a colour lol

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                            • spanner570
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                              • May 2009
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by AlanG
                              Also have to consider it getting worn when in use in a battlefield. I think i'll just wing it and choose a colour lol
                              How about...MUD!

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