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  • stillp
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    • Nov 2016
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    • Pete
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    #31
    Looking around the USS Alabama many years ago, we were in a room in which there were several 15 inch shells. A small boy asked his dad what it must have been like on the receiving end; the father said it must have seemed like it was raining exploding Volkswagens.
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    • boatman
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      • Nov 2018
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      • christopher
      • NORFOLK UK

      #32
      Originally posted by Modler bob
      Still a worthy ship in its day Chris.
      I built an airfix one and Warspite (I think).
      Wasn't they instumentle in helping to get rid of Bismark?
      HI Bob no my HMS TIGER C20 is a fairly modern ship an was not built when they went after bismark as mine Click image for larger version

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ID:	1180213was built in the 50;s an 60's as she took 20yrs to build due to design changes an she finished up half battle crusier an half heicopter carrier with 4 seakings choppers on her pic above but this is her sister ship HMS BLAKE C99
      chrisb

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      • BattleshipBob
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        • Apr 2018
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        • Bob
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        #33
        Originally posted by Tim Marlow
        5 knots slower than the US Iowa class ships Bob…….not that quick really.
        Hi Tim, true but i think Yamato was about 70000 T with Iowa about 45000 T?? Surviving crew said Yamato was capable of 29 to 30 knots, what ever 27 + is impressive at 70000 T! Surprised to read that in a rough sea Iowa class ships front turrets were useless?

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        • boatman
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          • Nov 2018
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          • christopher
          • NORFOLK UK

          #34
          Originally posted by Bobthestug
          Hi Tim, true but i think Yamato was about 70000 T with Iowa about 45000 T?? Surviving crew said Yamato was capable of 29 to 30 knots, what ever 27 + is impressive at 70000 T! Surprised to read that in a rough sea Iowa class ships front turrets were useless?
          YES Bob m8 i heard she wheighd in at about 70000 tons as they dint worry about that battle ship wheight treaty an why were the Iowa guns useless was it because the waves came right up to the turrets ?
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          • BattleshipBob
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            • Apr 2018
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            #35
            Originally posted by boatman
            YES Bob m8 i heard she wheighd in at about 70000 tons as they dint worry about that battle ship wheight treaty an why were the Iowa guns useless was it because the waves came right up to the turrets ?
            chrisb
            Yes, in the Vanguard book, she and think Iowa ( but one of the class anyway ) were in the Atlantic on a exercise in very poor weather, Vanguards front turrets were fully working but Iowa's unworkable.

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            • boatman
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              • Nov 2018
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              • christopher
              • NORFOLK UK

              #36
              Originally posted by Bobthestug
              Yes, in the Vanguard book, she and think Iowa ( but one of the class anyway ) were in the Atlantic on a exercise in very poor weather, Vanguards front turrets were fully working but Iowa's unworkable.
              WELL BOYO i dint know that i always thought that the iowa class ships were the bees knees of the battleships
              chrisb

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              • Modler bob
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                • May 2022
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                #37
                Originally posted by Jakko
                It is:



                This is in the Yamato Museum in Kure.
                Japan at their best. We won't mention their worst.

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                • BattleshipBob
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                  • Apr 2018
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                  • Bob
                  • Cardiff

                  #38
                  No expert Chris, there's always some times heated discussion about who would win or lose.

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                  • BattleshipBob
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                    • Apr 2018
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                    • Bob
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by stillp
                    Looking around the USS Alabama many years ago, we were in a room in which there were several 15 inch shells. A small boy asked his dad what it must have been like on the receiving end; the father said it must have seemed like it was raining exploding Volkswagens.
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                    Pete
                    Thanks Pete, bet steel toe caps are not much use then lol

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                    • boatman
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                      • christopher
                      • NORFOLK UK

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bobthestug
                      Thanks Pete, bet steel toe caps are not much use then lol
                      OR A STEEL helmet lol
                      chrisb

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                      • minitnkr
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                        • Apr 2018
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                        • Paul
                        • Dayton, OH USA

                        #41
                        I'll bet if you hit anything above the belt it would go missing & just ringing that (armor belt) bell would create lots of grief.

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                        • Tim Marlow
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                          • Apr 2018
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                          • Tim
                          • Somerset UK

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Bobthestug
                          Yes, in the Vanguard book, she and think Iowa ( but one of the class anyway ) were in the Atlantic on a exercise in very poor weather, Vanguards front turrets were fully working but Iowa's unworkable.
                          The secondary barbettes/batteries on those big battlewagons were usually unworkable in most heavy seas Bob…..never heard of a turret being unworkable though.
                          HMS Hood, for example, was known as the Navy’s biggest submarine because she was so wet in any sort of sea :tongue-out3:

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                          • Tim Marlow
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                            • Apr 2018
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                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #43
                            Originally posted by minitnkr
                            I'll bet if you hit anything above the belt it would go missing & just ringing that (armor belt) bell would create lots of grief.
                            One of the belt hits at Jutland shoved a battleship armoured belt in about twelve inches at the point of impact….can’t remember which ship, but Bob might. The kinetic energy able to do that beggars belief…..

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                            • minitnkr
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                              • Apr 2018
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                              • Paul
                              • Dayton, OH USA

                              #44
                              Iowa class 2700lb AP 16" projectiles (mv 2500'/sec) could penetrate 30' of concrete. Can you say sub pen?

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                                #45
                                That’s (one of the reasons) why some submarine bunkers had a double roof — though the main one was aerial bombs, of course. Though I suspect you would have to keep up the bombardment for a very long time to put something as large as a submarine bunker out of operation.

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