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  • Ennio
    • Jul 2022
    • 12

    #16
    Hi Jakko and Andrea, attached you can find some photos of italian Sherman tanks. I need to know the model of the "dozer" one.
    Regards and ciao! Ennio
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    • Guest

      #17
      I tried to do a little more digging as well, and it’s hard to get anywhere because searches like “Italian Sherman tanks” gets you mostly information about tanks used in the Italian campaign of 1943–45. However, I did find this page of the Italian ministry of defence that says M4A1, A2, A3 and A4s were used; the photo there is of an M4A4.

      I think the thing on the barrel has to do with the bunker, it’s too small to be a fume extractor and in any case, those things were pretty much never retrofitted to existing guns, probably because it requires drilling holes through the barrel. The upside-down turret seems to have a 17-pounder gun, but I’m not sure.


      Sherman V (the British designation for the M4A4; this has a British stowage box on the turret so I’m calling it by its British name), easily recognised by the wide spacing between the wheels.


      Sherman VC (not 95, 5C ), which is a Sherman V with 17-pounder gun.


      M4, a fairly early version going by the rear mudguards and the cut-out in the rear plate.


      Do you have a better version of this photo? It’s very blurry so it’s just about impossible to see the details needed to work out the variant from this angle. All I can really say from this is that has a small-hatch hull and it’s not an M4 composite or an M4A1, but that’s about it. A photo in which the engine deck or hull rear is visible would be great if you have it

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      • Ennio
        • Jul 2022
        • 12

        #18
        I have only this but is another tank without gun....
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        • Ennio
          • Jul 2022
          • 12

          #19
          Originally posted by Andy the Sheep
          Welcome to the forum Ennio.

          Andrea
          Ciao Andrea, di dove sei?

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          • Ennio
            • Jul 2022
            • 12

            #20
            I find in internet also another conversion kit from Tank Workshop (TWS 48302) but I think it had the same problem of Fighting 48 ones....

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              #21
              That picture is good, it shows the engine deck: it’s an M4 (“A0”) with small driver’s hatches, and it seems to be a fairly early vehicle. However, it’s a different tank from the dozer in your other photo: it has no additional armour plates on the hull side, which the first tank does have.

              But as far as I can tell, you don't need an M4A4 specifically. The Italian Army seems to have used most Sherman variants, so if you just want one to put on a railway flat wagon, you can buy an M4, M4A1, M4A2 or M4A3 and just build it straight from the box. Going by Scalemates, both Hobby Boss and Tamiya have ones that should be suitable, for example:

              Small-hatch M4 with 75-mm gun:


              Another small-hatch M4 with 75-mm gun:


              Small-hatch M4 with 17-pounder gun:


              Small-hatch M4A1 with 75-mm gun:


              Large-hatch M4A1 wuth 76-mm gun:


              Large-hatch M4A3 with 75-mm gun:


              You could also take the turret from the large-hatch M4A1 and put it on the hull of the large-hatch M4A3 if you want that turret but with an angular hull. Don’t put it on any of the small-hatch hulls, though.

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              • Andy the Sheep
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2019
                • 1864
                • Andrea
                • North Eastern Italy

                #22
                Originally posted by Ennio
                Ciao Andrea, di dove sei?
                Vivo in Friuli.

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                • Ennio
                  • Jul 2022
                  • 12

                  #23
                  Bene! Io nato a Milano e residente in provincia a Novate ma da genitori di Polcenigo... ti lascio la mia mail: frilbahn@virgilio.it
                  Un saluto, Ennio

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                  • Andy the Sheep
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 1864
                    • Andrea
                    • North Eastern Italy

                    #24
                    OK. Mail sent.

                    Andrea

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                    • Guest

                      #25
                      I would strongly recommend against posting your e-mail address anywhere it will be visible to the general public. If you want to tell someone on a forum how to contact you, start a private conversation and tell them your e-mail address there (Ian M: maybe edit the post to delete Ennio’s address?)

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                      • Ennio
                        • Jul 2022
                        • 12

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Jakko
                        I would strongly recommend against posting your e-mail address anywhere it will be visible to the general public. If you want to tell someone on a forum how to contact you, start a private conversation and tell them your e-mail address there :smiling3: (Ian M: maybe edit the post to delete Ennio’s address?)
                        Sorry! I agree with you. Ash on my head!

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                        • Ennio
                          • Jul 2022
                          • 12

                          #27
                          Hi Jakko, I have find also this white metal 1/48 kit from ASAM models. Exist also a British Sherman VC firefly.
                          Have you info on this brand?
                          Regards, Ennio
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                          • Guest

                            #28
                            I know nothing about it, but going by just that photo, it’s not a very good model. It’s an M4A4, yes, but it looks very crude. Like I said before do you absolutely need an M4A4 or will any Sherman do? Because a Tamiya or Hobby Boss kit of another variant will look a lot better than this one does, and you can buy probably three or four of them for the price of one of these … £70! That’s [ICODE]/me quickly looks it up[/ICODE] €81.77! The Hobby Boss kits cost [ICODE]/me looks up some more[/ICODE] €16–€25 each, the Tamiya ones about twice that …

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