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  • Waspie
    • Mar 2023
    • 3488
    • Doug
    • Fraggle Rock

    #1

    Attaching windows

    Silly question, but tis been a long time. The time has come to fix the windows into my kit. Simple. But! The locations they have to fit have been sprayed with acrylic. In days of yor I would have scraped off the paint around the windows, Put a blob of cement down and stick in place.
    With acrylic, do I need to scrape off the paint or will it accept the glue, (Tamiya thin), then offer the window to its location?
    Basic I know but I'd rather appear dim than cock up!!
  • adt70hk
    SMF Supporters
    • Sep 2019
    • 10409

    #2
    Hi Doug

    No scraping need.

    I use a special modelling window glue as below. Other brands are available but from what I gather they're not much more than a specialist PVA. Some people just use PVA......

    Others may be able to offer other ideas.

    ATB.

    Andrew


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    • Andy T
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2021
      • 3239
      • Sheffield

      #3
      You might be safer using something like pva if you don't have a specific canopy glue.

      TET certainly works but it can have a tendency to run where you don't want it to on clear parts and can even "fog" them unless you're uber careful

      Edit: a tad too slow with my reply..

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      • Waspie
        • Mar 2023
        • 3488
        • Doug
        • Fraggle Rock

        #4
        Originally posted by Andy T
        You might be safer using something like pva if you don't have a specific canopy glue.

        TET certainly works but it can have a tendency to run where you don't want it to on clear parts and can even "fog" them unless you're uber careful

        Edit: a tad too slow with my reply..
        I remember 'fogging' from my thick Airfix Glue tubes way back. (Plus the terrible finger print that always seemed to present itself).
        I was only a young teenager!!!!:rolling:

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        • Waspie
          • Mar 2023
          • 3488
          • Doug
          • Fraggle Rock

          #5
          Originally posted by adt70hk
          Hi Doug

          No scraping need.

          I use a special modelling window glue as below. Other brands are available but from what I gather they're not much more than a specialist PVA. Some people just use PVA......

          Others may be able to offer other ideas.

          ATB.

          Andrew


          Thanks Andrew.

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          • Guest

            #6
            Originally posted by Andy T
            a specific canopy glue.
            And with some of those, you also have to be careful. Humbrol’s, for example, won’t fog or craze clear parts but will dissolve dried acrylic paint — so if you’re not careful you might end up with a smear of paint on the window instead (he says from experience).

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            • Jim R
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 15704
              • Jim
              • Shropshire

              #7
              Lots of special glues around but PVA does work. It doesn't fog the clear part and dries clear. Also any smears are easily cleaned up with a brush dampened with water.
              One thing to be aware of is the bond is not that strong so don't press too hard if later you're masking the clear parts. Once you've pushed a window inside a model it can be a b****r to retrieve. I still have a model that has a rattle :rolling:

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              • Waspie
                • Mar 2023
                • 3488
                • Doug
                • Fraggle Rock

                #8
                Originally posted by Jim R
                I still have a model that has a rattle :rolling:
                That would have been a target for the air rifle!! I've matured a little since then!

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                • Waspie
                  • Mar 2023
                  • 3488
                  • Doug
                  • Fraggle Rock

                  #9
                  How about superglue? Is that any good or does it react to plastic?

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                  • Jim R
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 15704
                    • Jim
                    • Shropshire

                    #10
                    Some say the fumes from CA can cause fogging. What I've done successfully is fit the window/canopy with PVA and then very carefully wick thin CA into the join in a few places. I use a thin piece of wire to dip into the CA and pick up just a tiny amount and touch it to the join. The glue will wick into and along the join.

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                    • Waspie
                      • Mar 2023
                      • 3488
                      • Doug
                      • Fraggle Rock

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jim R
                      Some say the fumes from CA can cause fogging. What I've done successfully is fit the window/canopy with PVA and then very carefully wick thin CA into the join in a few places. I use a thin piece of wire to dip into the CA and pick up just a tiny amount and touch it to the join. The glue will wick into and along the join.
                      Excuse my ignorance - CA?

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                      • Andy T
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2021
                        • 3239
                        • Sheffield

                        #12
                        Cyanoacrylate = super glue :smiling4:

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                        • davecov
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 831
                          • Dave
                          • Stow, Scottish Borders

                          #13
                          I use Pacer's Zap Formula 560 Canopy Glue PT56 for fixing canopies, windows, lights etc. It is similar to PVA but is of a thinner consistency.

                          Dave
                          DaveCov - Founder of The Airfix Tribute Forum 2006

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                          • stona
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 9889

                            #14
                            I use G-S Hypo Cement. It has a gel like consistency and a needle applicator making it easy to keep away from areas where it's not wanted. It makes a very strong bond. A tube will last for a very long time.

                            It will not fog clear parts and dries clear itself.

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                            • Jim R
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 15704
                              • Jim
                              • Shropshire

                              #15
                              Originally posted by stona
                              I use G-S Hypo Cement
                              That sounds like a product worth trying :thumb2:

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