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  • Dave Ward
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    • Apr 2018
    • 10549

    #1

    FDM PLA 3D printing - with a model making inclination

    As you may have read, I've commissioned my Anet A6. I've printed out the benchies & calibrations, and now I'm going to use the printer as an extension of my model making. There are existing models, that could be useful. One of these I did print out, a track link jig - it printed OK, but it wasn't any good for anything other than very wide tracks - think Tiger+! There is a jig for holding assembled aircraft, which looks a bit weedy. In general, I think these models were made for a specific purpose, and don't look too useful for other models. At the moment I'm just thinking of assembly aids or jigs, the first being a propeller alignment jig, for 2,3,4 & 5 bladed assemblies, the second being a jig for tank track individual links with various widths and configurations. Among another ideas are a painting jig to hold tank/lorry roadwheels, without using those pesky masks. Further down the line - dockyard bases for 1/350 ships - seascape bases for dioramas, box loads for trucks - there are quite a few more ideas, but I'd better learn to walk before I run. This may take some time - prototyping can be a long drawn out process.............
    Dave
  • Jim R
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    • Apr 2018
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    • Jim
    • Shropshire

    #2
    Good luck. I'm quite intrigued (and baffled) by this new fangled technology.

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    • AlanG
      • Dec 2008
      • 6296

      #3
      Is this a separate entity to your 'different direction' thread or are you wanting it put in that thread Dave Ward ? Seems to be the same thing just in a different thread

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      • Dave Ward
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        • Apr 2018
        • 10549

        #4
        Originally posted by AlanG
        Is this a separate entity to your 'different direction' thread or are you wanting it put in that thread Dave Ward ? Seems to be the same thing just in a different thread
        Separate Entity - I'll be putting up specific things aimed at modelmaking
        Dave

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        • Dave Ward
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 10549

          #5
          Well, I stated to print out my first creation - or didn't - the printer refused to discharge any filament. Clogs and jams are apparently the FDM trait, as a case of 'when, rather than if'. Tried all sorts of things, had to bite the bullet & dismantle the extruder not a difficult job, but I kept on dropping bits! There are some helpful YouTube videos.............It's back together, but I'll have to level the bed again, which I don't feel like doing at the moment - a little power snooze is called for
          Dave

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          • Dave Ward
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            • Apr 2018
            • 10549

            #6
            Quite a steep learning curve!
            I printed out a section of cobbled street - it's difficult to work out what scale it's supposed to be - I think it's either 1/16 or 1/24. The rather too wide track link jig I printed out last week
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            I found a scaleable sea base on Thingiverse by Vsadnik3D, suitable for waterline models
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            Printed at different sizes for (top ) Aoshima 1/700 Nenohi. ( middle ) IBG 1/700 HMS Middleton & bottom just the base for the ICM 1/350 Kriegsfischkutter.
            Whilst I was printing this last one, I found I was having problems - the part cooling duct I had printed out was snagging the filament on the build plate - it also made access to the nozzle difficult - both for visibility & levelling , so I printed out another new one;
            Middle, the supplied part, left my first duct & right the new part.
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            Whilst the printer was busy, I was using FreeCad to create the propeller alignment jig. The first one I drew, I realised I'd tried to be too clever & make it suitable for all scales. Of course, I only need to make it for one scale ( 1/48 ), and blow it up,or shrink it down for 1/32 or 1/72.
            This is just the base - putting guide grooves in the top is proving a little tricky.
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ID:	1193888 The printer keeps on losing it's level, and finally reached the end of adjustment of the build plate - then I worked out that the vertical limit switch had shifted, allowing the whole X-axis & hot end to be closer to the build plate. My BP had risen by quite a bit, when I fathomed this. So I left alone & will sort this tomorrow, I hope. One advantage of having built the printer, is I know where the bits are - having said that if it was pre-built the limit switch may not have moved!
            Dave

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            • Neil Merryweather
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              • Dec 2018
              • 5182
              • London

              #7
              great progress Dave- your background clearly is an advantage

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              • Jim R
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                • Apr 2018
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                • Jim
                • Shropshire

                #8
                It's a steep learning curve, Dave, but knowledge and experience is being gained all the time.

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                • Dave Ward
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                  • Apr 2018
                  • 10549

                  #9
                  Had a food convoy arrive this morning, and was late in looking at the printer.
                  When you start a print, the X,Y & Z axis auto-home. This creates the zero datum from which all movements are derived. The Z-axis limit switch ( a tiny micro switch ) became loose, so as the printer auto-homed, the whole switch was gradually pushed down - the result was the nozzle became too close to the build plate - creating all sort of problems. I thought it was a build plate levelling problem & kept on adjusting this, until I ran out of adjustment & the nozzle actually buried itself in the build plate.
                  I sat down, looked at the printer & finally twigged that the switch was loose & had moved, so the stepper motors weren't being switched off at exactly the same time & were in fact turning off later.
                  5 minutes work & a piece of double sided tape to help the fixing screws - when I auto-homed, the gap between the nozzle & build plate was about 5mm & I recovered all the adjustment needed.
                  I reckon I can cope with most problems, apart from mechanical/electrical failures - so I've got/ordered some spares - like nozzles & drive belts. & a new hot end & cooling fans.
                  All problems with the printer are similar to computer hiccups - in that they take much longer to solve than you anticipate!
                  Dave

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                  • Dave Ward
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                    • Apr 2018
                    • 10549

                    #10
                    I've been doing a bit on my Tamiya Renault UE & I remembered that I'd seen a cobbled street on the Thingiverse website, by user Prognosis that would be ideal for a base.
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                    You can scale the base up or down to suit the model, although It's better to keep the thickness as original. This one is going to take over 5 hours to print!
                    When you print a model like this, the first two layers are critical, if they stick to the build plate that's 90% of the battle. If it doesn't stick & you've left it alone, the print head drags the increasing mass of extruded filament around and around, because there's nothing to tell it that it's failed. If the filament breaks, or runs out, then the printer will continue to go through the motions, as if there was a full spool of filament. If you have a power cut - then it's back to the start. The later, more expensive printers have sensors for all these problems - I just have the Mk.I eyeball
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                    No idea why there are two holes in the print - they look too regular to be a printer glitch
                    Dave

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                    • Komedy
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                      • Jan 2020
                      • 307

                      #11
                      Hi Dave

                      Are those holes not in the model, from the screen shot they appear to be in the model?

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                      • Dave Ward
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                        • Apr 2018
                        • 10549

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Komedy
                        Hi Dave

                        Are those holes not in the model, from the screen shot they appear to be in the model?
                        Well spotted! I hadn't looked carefully at the pictures, just the model! The cobbled street is designed to fit on a base....................
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                        ...........and is also two holed for screwing them together - I think I'll forget the base & putty up the two holes!
                        Dave

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                        • Dave Ward
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                          • Apr 2018
                          • 10549

                          #13
                          This eventually too 5hrs & 37 minutes to print out
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                          This is printed in draft mode, if I'd set it to superfine, then you could add at least 3 more hours to the print time - not instant printing, as a lot of people expect!
                          Dave

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                          • Jim R
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                            • Apr 2018
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                            • Jim
                            • Shropshire

                            #14
                            Providing you are confident enough to leave it be to do it's job then the time it takes doesn't matter.
                            That cobbled street looks good. How big is it?

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                            • Dave Ward
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 10549

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jim R
                              How big is it?
                              180mm x 80mm - the biggest I could scale it up to is 220 mm, but the width would be around 100/110mm. If you scale one axis too much you end up distorting the features!
                              Dave

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