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  • Dave Ward
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 10549

    #196
    Originally posted by stillp
    Good to see you back at 'work' Dave.
    Pete
    Sitting at the computer & lifting those heavy micro sd cards! ...........................
    Dave

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    • Dave Ward
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 10549

      #197
      Had a peculiar failure last night. I'd started a print, and I like to watch the first layers going down. To my surprise, the printer drew a few straight lines ( should have been curved ), then went away & sat in one corner - where there shouldn't have been any print at all............... Restarted the print, and a a similar thing happened. I thought that this must be a software slicing problem, so I resliced the model & tried again - the same happened, although it did draw a few more lines - I rebooted the printer, but - nope.
      I realised the common feature was the micro sd card - I replaced it with another - result, printing straightaway. I've had micro sd cards fail, but they seem to fail completely - this one was garbling the code. The card looked normal - the contacts were clean and straight. It was a 4Gb card, small by todays' standards - I've quite a few cards spare, so that went into the bin. Very odd - wasted an hour or so of my time!
      Dave

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      • Gary MacKenzie
        SMF Supporter
        • Apr 2018
        • 1057
        • Gary
        • Forres , Moray , Scotland

        #198
        Originally posted by Dave Ward
        Had a peculiar failure last night. I'd started a print, and I like to watch the first layers going down. To my surprise, the printer drew a few straight lines ( should have been curved ), then went away & sat in one corner - where there shouldn't have been any print at all............... Restarted the print, and a a similar thing happened. I thought that this must be a software slicing problem, so I resliced the model & tried again - the same happened, although it did draw a few more lines - I rebooted the printer, but - nope.
        I realised the common feature was the micro sd card - I replaced it with another - result, printing straightaway. I've had micro sd cards fail, but they seem to fail completely - this one was garbling the code. The card looked normal - the contacts were clean and straight. It was a 4Gb card, small by todays' standards - I've quite a few cards spare, so that went into the bin. Very odd - wasted an hour or so of my time!
        Dave
        If you can retrieve it from the bin, try using RUFUS to analyse and reformat.
        If it is a good make they can usually be recovered, its the cheap no-names that tend to fail most often.

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        • Dave Ward
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 10549

          #199
          Originally posted by Gary MacKenzie
          If you can retrieve it from the bin, try using RUFUS to analyse and reformat.
          If it is a good make they can usually be recovered, its the cheap no-names that tend to fail most often.
          It was a card I'd used before in a smartphone, a couple of years ago - I analysed it & reformatted it, but it came up with no errors - I'm not wasting time testing it in the printer. I might try it in my MP4 player, that only has a 2Gb card in it!
          Dave
          STOP PRESS I've just had a delivery from Yodel - my Sunlu T3 printer has arrived - I know what I'll be doing for the rest of the day!

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          • Jim R
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            • Apr 2018
            • 15704
            • Jim
            • Shropshire

            #200
            A very valuable side effect of your 3D printing adventure, Dave, is it's keeping you occupied :smiling:
            ..... and keeping us entertained!

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            • Dave Ward
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 10549

              #201
              Assembling the Sunlu T3 printer took about half an hour - 10 bolts, four of which were for the spool holder!
              It has a bed size comparable to the Anet, the frame is aluminium extrusions & the body of sheet steel. It has a Bowden style feed, with an all-metal geared extruder. The power supply gives 24V, and heats up the bed & nozzle very quickly. It took me a while to work out the sequence of levelling the bed, the instructions seem to be counter intuitive! It's now set, and before each print it does a 15 point check of the bed height & compenates. First print I did was rubbish - the printer clattered and groaned, but was very fast. I found that I had not unchecked the 'fast print' mode in the printer menu, and it was printing at 3 or 4 times the normal speed! Now, it is printing - it's very quiet, most noise is from the cooling fans! You are allegedly able to print at 200mm/sec, but the quality would be rubbish. I've been printing at 80mm/sec - twice the speed of the Anet. I still need to tweak the settings to improve the finishes & reduce stringing, but that shouldn't take too long. I'll put up some pictures tomorrow.
              Dave

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              • Neil Merryweather
                SMF Supporters
                • Dec 2018
                • 5189
                • London

                #202
                You're really becoming quite a pro now Dave:hugging-face:

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                • JR
                  • May 2015
                  • 18273

                  #203
                  Keep following but have no real idea of what's been done, seems very much like a printer when it has a turn .
                  Definitely going to be the big thing in years to come for modellers with a flair for engineering and computing skills .

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                  • Dave Ward
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 10549

                    #204
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                    Here it is, in operation as I said the printer itself is quiet ( silent steppers ), but the fans are not, and they cut in and out as needed!
                    The first thing I printed out after initial false starts was this an Admiralty Armed Trawler in 1/700 printed at 0.2mm layer height
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                    A few tweaks, and .........
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                    Printed at 0.15mm layer height - took about 90 minutes to print
                    In close up, the layers are nice & even - the height of the bows is around 7mm
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                    I can print down to <0.1mm layer height, but the time of print increases.
                    I'll give these a lick of primer & see how they look.
                    I don't tend to print benchmarks - I prefer to see the results on something I actually want to print. They're OK if you want to compare printers, but I want to see results on a real model
                    Dave

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                    • Jim R
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 15704
                      • Jim
                      • Shropshire

                      #205
                      Those few tweaks have definitely made an improvement.

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                      • Dave Ward
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 10549

                        #206
                        After a quick coat of primer - the better of the two trawlers,,,,,,,,,,,,
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                        What I would do is carerfully go round the model & remove all sharp edges, strings & other artefacts before painting, but this is still the process of trying to find the best settings for the Sunlu.
                        It's now in the process of printing something else
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                        Dave

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                        • Tim Marlow
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 18907
                          • Tim
                          • Somerset UK

                          #207
                          Stingray?

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                          • Dave Ward
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 10549

                            #208
                            Yes! - A four part model of Stingray - scale?, well your guess is as good as mine!
                            Dave

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                            • Dave Ward
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 10549

                              #209
                              Another lesson confirmed! I'd finished my Stingray & decided that there wasn't enough filament on the spool for my next print. I decided, on the grounds of economy, to revisit a spool of filament that I'd had problems with on the Anet. I thought that with the Sunlu it might be more forgiving. Now, with dismal failures on two printers, I can say this stuff is garbage! Today, it wouldn't stick, I re- levelled the build plate, tweaked the temperatures - it began to stick, but in the middle of a nice line of print, it would start to 'blob' and miss patches & then, when adding another layer, it'd begin to pull the whole lot up. I tried a different software slicer, but finally admitted defeat. It was an unbranded satin white PLA. I opened a brand new packet of JAYO grey PLA - and the printer happily started working properly.
                              I've been under the weather recently, and must admit I was getting a bit discouraged with the white PLA, but the new spool has lifted my mood a bit.
                              I was trying to print a 1/35 AMC 35 - a French 30's cavalry tank, but that's now the plan for tomorrow - the printer is working on a 1/700 floaty thing...............
                              Dave

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                              • Dave Ward
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 10549

                                #210
                                This is a 1/700 USS Independence - a 'littoral combat ship' essentially a hull with two outriggers & the deck built across them
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                                Has proved to be problematical, and has been laid up, after less than ten years service.....................
                                Modern ships don't lend to be suitable for FDM printing - too many aerials, and lattice masts - this print lost the fwd gun barrel, a radar mast & the Phalanx CIWS. - Just too delicate - and it shows 'quilting' in places - I'd reduced the % infill & surface layers to cut the print time - not clever.
                                This the start of the print of the hull of the AMC 35 ( going to take 7 hours ).......................
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                                I'm happy to say the layers are sticking & going down evenly - a big contrast to the total mess I had yesterday!
                                Dave

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