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  • Dave Ward
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 10549

    #61
    The gold filament was a disappointment! The first print got halfway through, then came off the build plate - no idea why, but it wasted quite a bit of filament - I'd only bought 5m.. The second king stuck OK, but the gold looks more beige and the layering is terrible, overall a failure........
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    Obviously the filament settings need tweaking, but I don't have enough filament for another try - I'll forget about this!
    Just normal filament, then primed with the pawn
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    Much better - hardly any layering visible

    I saw this on Thingiverse, by user 'deepstatic', and couldn't resist it
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    I had to use supports under the chin, but they came away without a problem, without even th use of a knife.
    There's loads of elves, goblins & space aliens available, but the ones I'm looking for, Medieval Knights, I haven't found any suitable for FDM printing - they may be out there, but not filed under a reasonable title! Chess pieces are small enough to print reasonably quickly, and are varied in their details - although printing out 32 pieces would take quite a bit of time!
    I've got a few mods to the printer to fit........................
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    The blue bit is a brace for the front plate & the grey bits are for a Y-axis belt tensioner - the existing arrangement isn't very good! I do have a spare set of belts, just in case something goes wrong
    Dave

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    • Neil Merryweather
      SMF Supporters
      • Dec 2018
      • 5193
      • London

      #62
      Dave, the metal filament is like using metal powders in casting resin or glass fibre - you need to buff the filament back to expose the metal.
      We used to brush with dichloromethane to dissolve the PLA then buff with a scotchbrite.
      good luck
      N

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      • minitnkr
        Charter Rabble member
        • Apr 2018
        • 7545
        • Paul
        • Dayton, OH USA

        #63
        Doesn't that stuff make you grow a third eye?

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        • Neil Merryweather
          SMF Supporters
          • Dec 2018
          • 5193
          • London

          #64
          Originally posted by minitnkr
          Doesn't that stuff make you grow a third eye?
          I thought that was carbon tetrachloride?

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          • Neil Merryweather
            SMF Supporters
            • Dec 2018
            • 5193
            • London

            #65
            Originally posted by minitnkr
            Doesn't that stuff make you grow a third eye?
            better stop using TET then

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            • Steven000
              SMF Supporters
              • Aug 2018
              • 2829
              • Steven
              • Belgium

              #66
              Nice experiments Dave, looks like you got the hang of it, cheers

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              • minitnkr
                Charter Rabble member
                • Apr 2018
                • 7545
                • Paul
                • Dayton, OH USA

                #67
                That too, used to use it back in the day like a "dry gas". Another was trichlorethane for cleaning parts, nasty stuff.

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                • Tim Marlow
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 18912
                  • Tim
                  • Somerset UK

                  #68
                  Both nasty chemicals Paul, yet Diclo was once used as an aerosol propellant…….

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                  • Dave Ward
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 10549

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                    I thought that was carbon tetrachloride?
                    Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                    better stop using TET then
                    Carbon Tet can turn into phosgene if exposed to heat in air - not something you want to mess with. I used to handle Dichlorodifluoromethane may years ago - more commonly known as Freon ( R-22 ) for fridge systems - nasty stuff!
                    Dave

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                    • David Lovell
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 2186

                      #70
                      Not interested in the chemical tech but wow your really beginning to put it together now thanks for all of your journey so far looking forward to your next installment. Dave

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                      • Tim Marlow
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 18912
                        • Tim
                        • Somerset UK

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Dave Ward
                        Carbon Tet can turn into phosgene if exposed to heat in air - not something you want to mess with. I used to handle Dichlorodifluoromethane may years ago - more commonly known as Freon ( R-22 ) for fridge systems - nasty stuff!
                        Dave
                        Carbon Tetrachloride was used as dry cleaning fluid and a refrigerant (among other things) for many years. Its worst property is that is extremely toxic to the liver and kidneys. You don’t need to heat it, just breathe it in.
                        To make phosgene you need to heat it to 50-150DegC. Probably achieved by smokers breathing it in while smoking, but not common in general use. Phosgene is degraded at about 200DegC, by the way, which is why Porton Down disposes of phosgene shell stocks found anywhere (usually dug up) by incinerator.
                        It’s also an extremely potent greenhouse gas with an atmospheric dwell time of 85 years. This is why it was removed from use as a refrigerant.
                        Basically, I’d leave it well alone unless you really know how to handle it.

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                        • minitnkr
                          Charter Rabble member
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 7545
                          • Paul
                          • Dayton, OH USA

                          #72
                          Great looking knight BTW, Dave.

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                          • Dave Ward
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 10549

                            #73
                            One of the problems with printing is supporting the parts, obviously it can't print in thin air, the printer can cope with gradual overhangs, but not gaps. The slicer software can provide supports, it can depend on the angle you choose to put the part on the build plate. The gun barrel & mantelet could be printed vertically without support, but such a small diameter is very fragile towards the top. I laid it horizontally, with automatically generated supports
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                            The support material under the barrel & the overhang under the mantelet are only loosely connected & should come off with little effort & leave minimum marks on the part
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                            In this case it came off very easily :thumb2:
                            I had to change filament, as I didn't think there was enough blue on the spool to print this
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ID:	1196377 Panther A turret with zimmerit from Cults by user 'Alainkif' - it was in 1/50, so I scaled it up to 1/35. This filament seems much tougher & the supports had to be cut off!
                            The barrel fits - it's just missing the side cheek pieces
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                            The detail is a bit too uniform - the zimmerit looks like a brick wall!
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                            If you're wondering about the lurid red - the seller offered a discount for a random colour............
                            The turret took about 5 hours to print. I have the files for the complete Panther, but the tracks look more suited for resin printing. I wanted to see if I could print a supported part & a turret with fine detail.
                            I originally thought that I'd stick with free models, but seeing how this gone I'm going to have a look around to see what models are available in the period up to 1939 - I'd especially like a Matilda I , but that may not be possible....................
                            Dave

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                            • langy71
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 1950
                              • Chris
                              • Nottingham

                              #74
                              That looks very nice indeed Dave, a bit of minimal clean up / tidying and a coat of primer it'll look just fine, and besides who says all Zimmerit was applied perfectly without any variation ?..(most of us are only going known of pictures of zim application), and during the time periods involved I'm sure there was plenty of variation that we aren't aware of..

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                              • David Lovell
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 2186

                                #75
                                As I said before all the techie stuff goes straight over the top but do so enjoy your journey with it all I hope you go back to the start and look just to see how far you've come well done. Dave

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