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  • Gary MacKenzie
    SMF Supporter
    • Apr 2018
    • 1057
    • Gary
    • Forres , Moray , Scotland

    #31
    This works in my head, and I believe it might work if you rotated the master as per

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    Then create a master mold of piece at that angle

    top part has the negative of the wording ''taurus models''

    then cut a filler hole as per

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    Now turn mold so that the top half and the bottom half become left and the right half with pour point at the top.




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    The liquid should flow down to bottom , and start filling up the way and allow the air to escape as it fills each of the small bits as the level rises.
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    • JR
      • May 2015
      • 18273

      #32
      Glad this came up again, always a good read the second time makes more sense.
      Thanks Mike it was extremely well thought out and explained.

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      • adt70hk
        SMF Supporters
        • Sep 2019
        • 10400

        #33
        Mike

        Seen this for the first time. Very informative and not half as scary as I thought it would be, and now I know how you're going to do my wheels!!!

        Thanks for taking the time to put this up!

        ATB

        Andrew

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        • SimonT
          • Apr 2018
          • 2824

          #34
          No offence to anyone but that is not the easiest way to cast something such as that Taurus sample block

          Rather than go through all the palaver of making two part moulds with lego and clay and measuring with scales just make single sided moulds as used by a lot of the commercial makers (it is how that sample block was cast) and mix resin in a mixing cup with gradations marked on the side - I was told how to do this by Tom at Millicast years ago when I made some masters for him and had to prepare the parts correctly so they could be moulded

          In that sample block you make the master exactly as it looks - the turned parts that you actually want, attached to a block which becomes the 'sprue' (it is actually a resin reservoir and the reason why you don't require an 'in' and an 'out')

          Glue the block to a flat base with the parts pointing up

          make a perimeter wall - I use plastic card as you get an excellent seal on all sides - around the master. It can be recycled afterwards for scratching more parts

          mix and pour your rubber over the master slowly - depending on the shape of your master you may need to help the rubber into recesses and purge air out. A piece of stiff wire with an 'L' on one end can be pushed gently around the master to help ease the rubber into the detail and dislodge bubbles - after a little practice you soon get the hang of where air collects and needs dislodging

          As you fill the mould flex the sides as this also helps bubbles escape - you will see bubbles rise to the surface of the rubber

          Once set - I usually leave for a day to make sure - break open the wall and remove

          Carefully pull the rubber off the master and turn open side up - the hole formed by the sprue block is now a reservoir for the resin

          Use a mixing cup to put equal parts of resin and catalyst in - say 10ml of each or whatever is required to fill the mould, using the marked gradations on the side of the cup, and mix. Flat coffee stirrers are great for this

          Again, the more castings you do the more you get to recognise how much resin will be required

          For small amounts medicine cups can be bought cheaply off ebay

          Now you have the resin mixed you don't have long before it will start to react

          Squeeze the air out of the mould and fill the reservoir with resin - let go of the mould and resin will be sucked into the mould

          Just make sure the reservoir doesn't empty or it will draw in air which you don't want

          Working quickly before the resin starts to cure work a piece of wire around the inside of the mould to dislodge air bubbles - lightly squeeze and let go of the mould sides as well, just don't push all the resin out!

          Sit the mould down and let it set

          Once set, peel the resin casting from the rubber mould and you will have a piece that looks like the sample above

          Since parts are cast as single pieces you do not get mould lines, however, as with commercial resin kits, it may be necessary to create some very thin areas of flash to keep the two halves of the mould separate

          A shovel for example can be cast in one piece on its side but you need to fill in the gap between the reservoir block and the shovel so that it does not become totally encased in the rubber - this can be 5thou plastic card or, if the gap is small enough, a film of PVA glue

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          these are all examples of single sided mouldings

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          this is the BRDM-2 tyre master and the single sided mould - the castings are shown in the pictures above

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          • JR
            • May 2015
            • 18273

            #35
            This why I search the net for wheels, can just imagine the mess I would get into. Think the best way would be to have one to one instruction at the bench.

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            • Jim R
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 15640
              • Jim
              • Shropshire

              #36
              I have only ever made one piece moulds and with a bit of thought quite detailed things can be made that way. Simon introduced me to resin casting and I was surprised how flexible the rubber is which makes the finished item fairly easy to get out. The hardest part I find is figuring out where to put thin sheet to prevent the master being trapped in the rubber mould.
              Jim

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              • BattleshipBob
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 6785
                • Bob
                • Cardiff

                #37
                Hi all

                Excellent info!!

                Will using the sylmaster kit copy these?

                Gunners hatch x 1
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                I hope to copy a lot of these, spare wheel bracket
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                Dragon kits do not come with shell case bags, but i have the extra kit and again would like to copy a good few
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                Thanks bob

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                • SimonT
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 2824

                  #38
                  Bob - part 39, yes, nice easy shape. Stand vertically on one edge

                  spare wheel bracket - looks like a return roller - and the bag, bit more complicated shapes but should do. It all comes down to the prep

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                  • BattleshipBob
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 6785
                    • Bob
                    • Cardiff

                    #39
                    Thanks Simon, again!!!!

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