filler/putty

[Guest]

Yes I think you are right Stona but it does not matter. Always interesting to get the other side.

My apologies I had misunderstood your comments regarding the filler properties & got poly mixed with superglue.

Must say that after all the above though I have found good use for it I hate the process of using it.

Laurie

[stona]

No need for any apologies here Laurie, everyone develops their own favourite techniques and I agree that CA glues are a useful,if not vital,addition to any modellers armoury. A healthy exchange of views can only be helpful to other forum members. I certainly take no offence if someones opinion differs from mine and would hope that everyone else feels the same.

If I had another quid for every time I'd stuck a piece of plastic ,photo-etch,my body,a family pet or clothing to something else with the damned stuff I'd also be a rich man! I too find the process of using it irksome but unavoidable.

On a slightly different tack,do you find that CA glues go off? I'm sure that some,it seems to me particularly the thinner "concoctions", go off fairly rapidly once opened. I have a somewhat distant background in chemistry and have suggested to the missus that I should be allowed to keep it in the fridge but this suggestion was met with a response more frosty than the ice box!

Cheers

Steve

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Steve I cannot place on here the language that my wife would use if I suggested keeping super glue in HER fridge. Enough problems when I accidentally leave the door open.

Visions of a leak & your wife walking around with a frozen chicken super glued to her finger.

Found this.

1) STORAGE:

New, Unopened containers of any instant glue may be stored in the freezer (at or below

32 F) to double shelf life. Always allow the container to warm to room temperature before opening. Once opened, never return an opened bottle to cold storage. Why ? -- Moisture is one of the catalysts. Opening a cold bottle or placing a previously opened bottle back in cold storage causes the warm air that has entered the bottle, (carrying moisture with it), to condense the moisture into water. This has a negative effect on shelf life causing the contents of the bottle to thicken and eventually harden and causes the spout to clog very frequently. The thicker these glues become, from the original viscosity, the more frequently clogs occur.

Note:This is not to say that the gap filling versions are more likely to clog.

I read somewhere that shelf life was about 5 years but dependant on conditions.

Laurie

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Long way out there Steve. Memory not so good.

AGE or Foreign Matter:

Shelf life is determined, to a great extent, by the quantity in the container. As a rule of thumb, a two ounce bottle has a one year shelf life at room temperature. As the bottle ages and passes the expected useful lifetime, it begins to thicken. This can also occur because of improper storage or because of foreign matter being introduced into the bottle, as explained above. If you are very familiar with these glues, you know that even glue thickened because of any of the reasons above, is still usable as if it were gap filling versions.NEVER add new glue to an open bottle as the older glue will shorten the shelf life of the new.Large bottles of glue are poor economy unless a smaller container is used up entirely within 4 weeks.

[stona]

Thanks for the info. Interesting that it suggests a freezer rather than a fridge,I don't think I'll be chancing my arm there! My work means that there tend to be long periods between modelling activities. I'll just have to keep buying fresh CA.

Cheers

Steve

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I have dirt cheap solution from Vietnam. Have anyone of you tried liquid correction pen? I don't know how much it is in UK or US, but they are very cheap compared to Tam putty or Mr. Color. It is also very easy to use, just use it like you do a correction on paper. It can be used to fill gap and sink mark. The only problem is that for large gap and sink mark, it might take about two hour to completely dry. Sometimes, there are bubbles, but no problem just apply another layer. If you want to see the result, please look at my Pak43.

[stona]

That's a good tip and is useful for small gaps. I've used it in the past but not so much these days.

Did you know that the original "liquid paper" commonly called Tippex in the UK was invented by Bette Nesmith? She was the mother of Mike Nesmith who found fame as one of "The Monkees".

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

Hehe... I have totally no idea what you are talking about, Stona. "The Monkees" is a music band, I pressume? I just found out Mr.Surfacer is great for filling sink mark and pin mark, although it takes time to dry but it is much better than the liquid paper.

[Guest]

Tamiya putty FTW