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  • Stefee
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    • Feb 2023
    • 780

    #16
    Originally posted by boatman
    looks really good but i dint think the engine nacceles lit up on the ole enterprise ?
    Chris I am not an expert on these machines, I just like them and the original series. The fact that so many kit manufacturers and after market electrical component makers offer lit nacelles I will go with it. I believe this kit with its engraved grid lines is apparently based on the episode "Trials and Tribbleations".

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    • boatman
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      • Nov 2018
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      • christopher
      • NORFOLK UK

      #17
      Originally posted by Stefee
      Chris I am not an expert on these machines, I just like them and the original series. The fact that so many kit manufacturers and after market electrical component makers offer lit nacelles I will go with it. I believe this kit with its engraved grid lines is apparently based on the episode "Trials and Tribbleations".
      oh ok Stefee its just that i may have missed that episode then when they were lit up but should look nice when finished an on its stand as i know the movie vershin like i built did have lit up engine naccels but keep this build comin
      great stuff
      chrisb

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      • boatman
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        • Nov 2018
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        • christopher
        • NORFOLK UK

        #18
        an i read up on the guy who painted the really big model that parmount used for close up's in the movie vershion as he was sayin he used very exspensive flip flop paints to make it look like a metal of the future an he got angry when they filmed it as they used high powered lights an the lights desroyed the flipflop colours he spent hundreds of hrs painting the hull an about the tv seris enterprise ive seen no end of arguments about the true colour of the enterprise as on tv it looks pearlesence white but then other say it was painted a very light grey so no one could agree on that but i sprayed my enterprise in tamayia pearesence white an when the sun shine on it it dose show differnt colour like pearl but again them tamyia paints were exspensive
        chrisb

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        • Stefee
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          • Feb 2023
          • 780

          #19
          The colour is a can of worms, yet to make my decision but definitely not filling in the grid lines.

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          • boatman
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            • Nov 2018
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            • christopher
            • NORFOLK UK

            #20
            Originally posted by Stefee
            The colour is a can of worms, yet to make my decision but definitely not filling in the grid lines.
            GOOD for you Stefee as it a lot of work an to me its makes the ship look more real with the panel lines as i thought it looked horrendous all smooth an have you not seen these utube vids ? or are you not insterted ?
            chrisb

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            • Guest

              #21
              Oh! I have an article in an old issue of FSM about the original model used for filming, and IIRC it talks about colours used. This is from the TV show, right, not the first movies?

              Looking it up, it seems the original model built for the show was about 90 cm long, and the 1966 AMT kit was based on it (but inaccurate). This model had “disappeared” by the time the FSM article was written in 1998, but the article mentions several AMT kits were used later on in the show. They also built a 3.4-meter-long model for close-up shots, which is the one the article is about. It has some colour profiles showing which colours go where, though only in generic terms like “light gray” and “red”, but I could scan them if you want.

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              • Stefee
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                • Feb 2023
                • 780

                #22
                I prefer the grid lines to be honest however the primer , colour and clear coats will lessen their effect. Watched a few builds of this kit and I agree with you that a smooth body looks toy like and boring.

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                • Stefee
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                  • Feb 2023
                  • 780

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jakko
                  though only in generic terms like “light gray” and “red”, but I could scan them if you want.
                  Thanks for the offer but a general consensus among builders is that the plastic colour is quite close to the TV series rendition but, as has been mentioned several times on this site, colour perception varies wildly due to many factors. When I was a car spray painter I went on a course where it was explained that EVERYTHING on this planet is white as is light, the colour we perceive is that colours wavelength in white light being absorbed and reflected back to our eyes.

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                  • Guest

                    #24
                    If you really want to get technical, then colour only exists in your brain. Your eyes register that light of a certain wavelength falls into them, signal this fact to your brain, and that interprets it as “this bit there is light blue” (or whatever). There is no such thing as “everything is white”, because again, that’s all between the ears. All that is entirely irrelevant to painting things, though, IMHO

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                    • boatman
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                      • Nov 2018
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                      • christopher
                      • NORFOLK UK

                      #25
                      WELL GUYS on the original series the ship is white so go with that as ive seen a model painted light grey an it looked terrible so i think satin white is the way to go as remember the ship is built of duraimum a futer metal made for starships lol
                      chrisb

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                      • peterairfix
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                        • Jul 2012
                        • 11074

                        #26
                        This might help I have used it many a time.
                        Version 2.0 Revised 8-30-2018 Diagram by Petri Blomqvist INTRODUCTION The color scheme of the original, 11-foot model of the Starship Enterprise has be

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                        • Stefee
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                          • Feb 2023
                          • 780

                          #27
                          Originally posted by peterairfix
                          This might help I have used it many a time.
                          Version 2.0 Revised 8-30-2018 Diagram by Petri Blomqvist INTRODUCTION The color scheme of the original, 11-foot model of the Starship Enterprise has be
                          Peter, thanks very much for linking that very interesting article which is extremely detailed if somewhat daunting. I think I will find suitable Tamiys Acrylic colours and mix them to look right.
                          Regarding the logistics of painting I have decided to primer the exterior parts after necessary repairs, filling etc. Then light block the internal surfaces black followed by white. After fixing in all windows, electronics etc. I will have 3 sub assemblies, nacelle and pylons, secondary hull and saucer. After fixing and re primering the joints etc. I will then paint the various top coats, decal and satin clear coat. Due to the number of windows I have ordered the Green Strawberry masking set.

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                          • peterairfix
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                            • Jul 2012
                            • 11074

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Stefee
                            Peter, thanks very much for linking that very interesting article which is extremely detailed if somewhat daunting. I think I will find suitable Tamiys Acrylic colours and mix them to look right.
                            Regarding the logistics of painting I have decided to primer the exterior parts after necessary repairs, filling etc. Then light block the internal surfaces black followed by white. After fixing in all windows, electronics etc. I will have 3 sub assemblies, nacelle and pylons, secondary hull and saucer. After fixing and re primering the joints etc. I will then paint the various top coats, decal and satin clear coat. Due to the number of windows I have ordered the Green Strawberry masking set.
                            There is a part somewhere that does list tamiya as I use mainly tamiya myself so I will see if I can find it
                            One suggestion that cropped up a number of times is XF12 JN grey for the main overall colour of witch I have used on a few enterprise builds

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                            • boatman
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                              • Nov 2018
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                              • christopher
                              • NORFOLK UK

                              #29
                              HI Peter well this is my conclusion of my thoughts after reading all that was said an to try an copy all the colours that were mentioned you would end up in a rubber room but this is my take on the models colours as ive found out on my big warships when sailing on the pond its all too do with the light shinein on the model as i painted my ships humbroll no64 matt light grey an when the ships on the water if it was a dull day the ship would look a dark gray but when the sun came out an shone on the model it would look an very light grey even towards a whitetishs finish so its really all to do with how much light is shineing on the model so in reallity there is NO correct COLOUR thats my take on the subject an Peter many thanks for showin this link as i enjoyed the readup on garry keer's concloushions
                              THANKS
                              Chrisb

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                              • Stefee
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                                • Feb 2023
                                • 780

                                #30
                                A long delayed update.
                                I have decided to build this as a general representation of the Enterprise as seen in the pilot episodes and the original series so the exact colours and their placements are not true to one particular screen presentation.
                                The nacelle electronics and PE grilles have been fitted and the seams sorted for more primer. I had a self inflicted issue with the "rotating" collector lights that Gary at starshiplighting sorted by sending another voltage regulator completely free of charge - top marks for customer service which needs to be applauded.
                                The electronics and Liquid Gravity weight along with the PE shuttle bay just fit into the engineering hull. The saucer lights all fitted and the PE bridge has a dimmer glow which works well.
                                4 small resin/PE shuttle craft to sorted and decalled.
                                Loads of photos to follow and a further update in 3 weeks after returning from my holiday as no internet on the high seas.
                                Thanks for looking and all comments welcome.
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