Boatmans 1/72 nd scale HMS Tiger C20

[Waspie]

Wow,that landing took some skill Doug. I watched the next video, showed a slightly easier landing .Still impressive stuff. Thanks for posting .

Both the Lynx and the Wasp had one advantage only in they had what we called 'negative pitch'. That is when they eventually landed on deck they pushed the collective (That's the left lever looking flying control that makes it go up/down!!) lever down. What that did was 'push' the helicopter on the deck ensuring it stayed on deck. Even when listing quite severely!! The Lynx also has the addition of a harpoon style system to grab the deck. You can see it engage on the end of the video!
The Canadians use a system called 'Bear Trap' to drag themselves onto the deck.
I spent several tours on a Tribal Class which had one of the smallest flight decks in the RN. Landing was always exciting!!! A nice Mediterranean flat calm sea. Inside the Artic circle was another kettle of fish!!!!

HMS Ashanti pre 1982. (White numerals)


As was putting it to bed!

[Waspie]

WOW Doug would not want to be in them choppers tryin to land on that small dutch frigate wow they did well to land it an again wow when the yanks just pushed all them millions of dollars worth of choppers over the edge of that carrier what a waste BUT MANY THANKS for puttin on the vid
cheers
chrisb

Hi Chris, the US pushed their choppers over the side to make room for the ships own aircraft and the increase in people on the warship I believe.
Of course I'm assuming your referring to the withdrawal from Viet Nam?

[boatman]

COR Thanks Doug on the chopper info great stuff an yes loved the vid
chrisb

[Neil Merryweather]

I'm surprised to find that I haven't commented on this thread Chris, but as all have said already, what a towering achievement this is and I hope you're totally proud of yourself?
Your commitment and determination, never mind your skill, are off the chart!
Hats off to you sir!

[boatman]

I'm surprised to find that I haven't commented on this thread Chris, but as all have said already, what a towering achievement this is and I hope you're totally proud of yourself?
Your commitment and determination, never mind your skill, are off the chart!
Hats off to you sir!

HI Neil no worryies but many thanks for you very kind comments on my TIGER build an on me BUT i will be happy with TIGER when i get this eletric problem sorted as over two yrs of the build since i have fitted in the ESC an motors ive had probs on an off sometimes they went good an just when i thought id licked the probs back they came again an i must have treid this 20 different ways usein up to 5 ESC an yes they go ok for a while an me thinkin yes thats done only for the problem to come back as i cant understand it as in 30 odd yrs of building R/C ships ive never had this prob before Aaaaaccchhhhh but i will solve it sooner or later with the clap lol

ATB to you
chrisb

[boatman]

YES Doug if you asume to much it will be what you have said LOL an this at the moment has happened to me as i assumed that diferent ESC would be ok but it wasnt an yes it was a big **** up an if that motor had hit me in the face i would have now been in A/E SO thats the reason im goin to strip out that other 30 amp eletronise ESC identical to the one in tiger already an two the same an i know they are good units as they work ok mind you the ESC in norfolk hasnt been powered up since last september so im hopein fot the best but not assumein lol an cheers for that chopper pilots veiw that great an yes tiger has a controll bubble for landin choppers on the flight deck an i have forgot to fit the window wipers i think it was Scottie who pointed this out so still abit to keep my ocuppied
ATB to you Sir
chrisb

HI ALL regards eletric probs ive finally worked out what i think is the problem but im not sayin yet till i do some experimeting an if im correct which i think i am then i'll need to do some rewirein in tiger to put it all right but will find out in a few days
Chrisb

[Waspie]

HI ALL regards eletric probs ive finally worked out what i think is the problem but im not sayin yet till i do some experimeting an if im correct which i think i am then i'll need to do some rewirein in tiger to put it all right but will find out in a few days
Chrisb

Good luck Chris. Hope the re-wiring goes well.
May the force be with you!!

[boatman]

Good luck Chris. Hope the re-wiring goes well.
May the force be with you!!

HI Doug yes i'll certainly need the force as ive ordered two new 320 amp ESC fitted with fans to keep them cool an just as well ive got 2 X R/X 's as im goin to have to fit in two R/X's one to work the motors an rudder an all 6 stabilizers an also to work the front bow thruster motor AN THE other one will work all the other assesories like them 4 radars an all the lights an sound units an such
SO ive got too have a complete rethink on the eletrics an this is due to the fact that this is the first time ive used these BECC units in my ship an that where all my toubles are comin from but not sayin any more till i find out for defeinet
chrisb

[boatman]

HI ALL well i dont know if you will understand this but ive found out what my eletric problem is on tiger so far an im pretty sure im right an below is a quick exslanplation of what ive done wrong an how im goin to get around it but will find out for defienet today
WELL ive been up since 4 am as this eletric problem as gotten to me but up the pond on sunday i was talkin to a chap an tellin him my probs an i he told me how this BECC system works better than anybody elese has an i now know what i have done wrong. An thats ive been tryin to mix the old way of tryin to save money an usein old ESC THAT ARE batt powered R/X (receiver) to work servo's AN the newer way OF the BECC power to work the servos an no battrey to power the R/X which is the receiver from the R/C HAND SET so an to cut a long story short im goin too have to have 2 R/X (RECIEVER's ) IN TIGER an that one at the back to power the rudder an all 6 stabilizers an to also power the
NEW 320 AMP ESC 'S X2 to POWER ALL FOUR MOTORS an also to power the bowthruster WHICH IS ALSO BECC POWERED in the front part of the ship .AN then the front R/X ( receveier) will power all things from its own batt power not like this BECC system to power all the other systems like all the 4 radars an all the lights an helicopter an red anti collishion lights an such but ive got to stop there as im pullin my hair out lol an im goin to try this all out TODAY how's that ALL hope you understand that as im only just gettin my head around it Aaaaaaaaccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh an tryin to keep calm ALL THE BEST TO YOU ALL
chrisb

[outrunner]

Hi Chris, I understand what you are trying to do having used BECC systems in RC model aircraft for years. It has been a long time since I stopped flying so the modern systems will be better than the ones I used so it should all be good for you. The only thing to watch is power consumption so that the main batteries do not lose too much power as you do not want the RX's shutting down and losing control.

Andy.

[Waspie]

HI ALL well i dont know if you will understand this but ive found out what my eletric problem is on tiger so far an im pretty sure im right an below is a quick exslanplation of what ive done wrong an how im goin to get around it but will find out for defienet today
WELL ive been up since 4 am as this eletric problem as gotten to me but up the pond on sunday i was talkin to a chap an tellin him my probs an i he told me how this BECC system works better than anybody elese has an i now know what i have done wrong. An thats ive been tryin to mix the old way of tryin to save money an usein old ESC THAT ARE batt powered R/X (receiver) to work servo's AN the newer way OF the BECC power to work the servos an no battrey to power the R/X which is the receiver from the R/C HAND SET so an to cut a long story short im goin too have to have 2 R/X (RECIEVER's ) IN TIGER an that one at the back to power the rudder an all 6 stabilizers an to also power the
NEW 320 AMP ESC 'S X2 to POWER ALL FOUR MOTORS an also to power the bowthruster WHICH IS ALSO BECC POWERED in the front part of the ship .AN then the front R/X ( receveier) will power all things from its own batt power not like this BECC system to power all the other systems like all the 4 radars an all the lights an helicopter an red anti collishion lights an such but ive got to stop there as im pullin my hair out lol an im goin to try this all out TODAY how's that ALL hope you understand that as im only just gettin my head around it Aaaaaaaaccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh an tryin to keep calm ALL THE BEST TO YOU ALL
chrisb

Nope! Electricery is black magic to me. I’m only glad they invented the electrician!!!
Your doing a grand job Chris just attempting to do battle with the stuff.

[boatman]

Nope! Electricery is black magic to me. I’m only glad they invented the electrician!!!
Your doing a grand job Chris just attempting to do battle with the stuff.

WELL Doug yes im doin battle with that elecy an so far ive been on the losein side lol but now im in possion of a clearer thoughts on where ive been goin wrong i hope today to get it all sorted BUT WILL I ? but unless i try tiger will never get on the wet stuff an be like that REAL POW a heap of junk in drydock
Aaaaacchhhh
chrisb

[boatman]

Hi Chris, I understand what you are trying to do having used BECC systems in RC model aircraft for years. It has been a long time since I stopped flying so the modern systems will be better than the ones I used so it should all be good for you. The only thing to watch is power consumption so that the main batteries do not lose too much power as you do not want the RX's shutting down and losing control.

Andy.

AN HI Andy yes you are right but i dont think i'll use too much power when every thing is goin as ive two wackin great 12 amp hr batts in her for power an for ballast an i she should not get out of control as in my R/C system ive got the failsafe up an running so if she does run amuk then the fail safe system should shut all 4 motors down untill i can get her back under controll an then i can bring her back to the pond egde to fit in new batts hows that Andy ?
chrisb

[davecov]

A stunning build, Chris. :thumb2:

Good luck with your HMS Clyde project should you get that underway.

Dave

[boatman]

A stunning build, Chris. :thumb2:

Good luck with your HMS Clyde project should you get that underway.

Dave

OH Cheers Dave yes im pleased with the build its just them bloomin eletrics what are gettin me but i hope to sort it out when i get off the pc an thanks yes ive got clyde in my mind but one thing for sure it wont be as complex as this tiger Aaaaaaccchhhh
ATB ps any work done on that Dora ?
chrisb