German Third Reich Gold Bullion Loot found!!

[spanner570]

Looks like I'm privileged again!

Thanks for your post Joe.....glad you like it.....

Ron

[Ian M]

Looks like I'm privileged again!Thanks for your post Joe.....glad you like it.....

Ron

No Ron I moved the post.! you are still the same old Ron you have always been. :P

Ian M

[Guest]

you are still the same old Ron you have always been. :P

Are you trying to say Ron's under-privileged Ian ........ Tut tut

[geegad]

we should be thanking you with that class build

[Guest]

Your submarine would look good in one of those boxes where you have to peek into.

And on display at Telford.

Although wouldnt the probe be modern and multi-coloured?

[spanner570]

Your submarine would look good in one of those boxes where you have to peek into.And on display at Telford.

Although wouldnt the probe be modern and multi-coloured?

Thanks Harry,

The punters at Telford would probably think it was somewhere to dispose their empty beer cans and fag ash!

The probe is actually a vivid yellow, but two miles down the colour wouldn't show up too well. The R.V. took the picture without flash to get an illusion the 'probe' was all alone down there.....

As for it not looking modern, this is a highly secret submersible, specially designed to look dated to stop inquisitive eyes taking too much notice....It is in fact crammed full of the very latest in sonar detection and underwater surveillance equipment and other more sensitive stuff, which for obvious reasons can't be mentioned here.....

Cheers,

Ron

[Guest]

Oh yea I knew that

[ojays]

Thanks Harry,The punters at Telford would probably think it was somewhere to dispose their empty beer cans and fag ash!

The probe is actually a vivid yellow, but two miles down the colour wouldn't show up too well. The R.V. took the picture without flash to get an illusion the 'probe' was all alone down there.....

As for it not looking modern, this is a highly secret submersible, specially designed to look dated to stop inquisitive eyes taking too much notice....It is in fact crammed full of the very latest in sonar detection and underwater surveillance equipment and other more sensitive stuff, which for obvious reasons can't be mentioned here.....

Cheers,

Ron

Does your imagination know no bounds!

Gregg

[Guest]

Greg, with an imagination like yours you should write scripts!!

[Guest]

I think the 534 brings to mind a few interesting discussions. The first is just who has ownership of historical artifacts? I think it would be difficult to justify agreeing that a council has the right to do what it wants with something of historical significance. Items such as that should surely be controlled at a national level by an organization along the lines of English Heritage or the National Trust, with no political or financial affiliations. Certainly some form of body tasked with the preservation of historical artifacts. I think that is something we don't do as we'll as we used to and too many things are being lost forever rather than being preserved.

The second interesting point is that I remember very well the uproar when the 534 was brought to Liverpool. All of a sudden everyone had an immediate affiliation with an "Uncle Albert", who had been torpedoed during the war and this hated symbolism of those times had no place in Liverpool etc. Now it is cut up, painted grey and looking more like a kiddies playground. I can't help but wonder whether the initial feelings had something to do with the eventual fate of the submarine!!

As for seeing it yes I have, and I think it has completely lost it's impact for being presented in this way. It was a far better exhibit when seen with HMS Onyx, HMS Bronnington and HMS Plymouth in Birkenhead which now, unfortunately have all been split up.

As has been mentioned on other threads I think the Germans do a better job of preserving history in a much better realistic way and avoid making it al look that bit more palatable. Their concentration camp museums reduce everyone to tears and have a far bigger impact, which will hopefully help us all to try to avoid a repetition. Is it interesting to think that although we quote regularly "Lest We Forget" it may be the Germans who are remembering far more accurately?

Just food for thought.

[Guest]

I have no dog in this fight, Im just a tourist.

but

http://www.irishseashipping.com/viewpoint/u534/u534.htm

[Guest]

I just think it is interesting to share views. Good link, many thanks

[flyjoe180]

The second interesting point is that I remember very well the uproar when the 534 was brought to Liverpool. All of a sudden everyone had an immediate affiliation with an "Uncle Albert", who had been torpedoed during the war and this hated symbolism of those times had no place in Liverpool etc. Now it is cut up, painted grey and looking more like a kiddies playground. I can't help but wonder whether the initial feelings had something to do with the eventual fate of the submarine!!

Interesting that when a historic wartime German aircraft is resurrected there aren't queues of people with tales of Uncles and Grandfathers being strafed or sunk by them. I think that also says a lot about the fear that the U-Boats held, the 'unseen enemy', much like a sniper of the sea.

[spanner570]

It's worthwhile remembering that whilst the German U Boats were vilified for being 'Sneaky and not the way to conduct a war,' there were plenty of British subs doing precisely the same thing, obviously not on as big a scale, but that was 'Jolly good, and well done chaps!'

[Guest]

It's worthwhile remembering that whilst the German U Boats were vilified for being 'Sneaky and not the way to conduct a war,' there were plenty of British subs doing precisely the same thing, obviously not on as big a scale, but that was 'Jolly good, and well done chaps!'

HMS Conquerer.... General Belgrano..1982