Tamiya 1:350 Japanese Battleship Musashi Build Thread

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ok guys, which colour scheem do you think is best??

the silver and gold, or the silver and black??

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Im Sorry i will have to disagree with bunk here i think that when you take in to acount the size of those ships and the multitude of different trees (all teak) that went into them a basic overall colour looks too toylike have a look at these pics of the new jersey to see what i mean

http://www.colosseumbuilders.com/john/nj/forecastle.htm

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ok....i see what you mean nigel. well i will have to wait for richards pictures to be fare.

but if i do it your way i aint doing the bloddy nails!!!

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Nigel,

Please feel free to disagree as much as you want. I have lived on ships all my working life and I know. I don't need to disagree, I just have to walk outside my cabin.

The pictures you linked to are of a ship that has been a floating museum for many many years now so the decks of this vessel have had very little attention in all that time.

Working ships, especially warships are attended to regularly and the decks are scrubbed with holy stones on a regular basis. This keeps the surface of the wood scrubbed and quite white in appearance. The main colour differrences your pictures show are where the deck is wet when it takes on a much darker appearance.

Vessels nowadays are not scrubbed with holy stones but electric deck scrubbers are used to much the same effect. We scrub the decks on here twice a week, fairly normal for this type of ship. This obviously relates to a much more even colour on a 1/350th model than the very noticable colours used in the first model shown earlier.

I will send you some pictures of an operational vessels decking in a day or so.

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ok thanks richard that would be great.

how can i make a poll?

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so barry, i am painting the hull jn grey....what colour should i pime it with? i have white or grey. which one would be best?

got to give the whole lot a wash first!

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Hi Guys,

The attached pictures were taken of our decks this morning. Unfortunately difficult to get a true picture with the sun so bright and the deck such a light colour.

I also took one under cover so that the colour might come out a bit more.

Although to be realistic the saturation should be increased a little the main point for me is the consistency of the colour of the wood from one plank to the next. The only exeption to this is when it gets wet when teak takes on a dramatically darker hue as in the last picture. Have a play around with the hue and saturation to see the colour show through a bit more.

Anyway just to generate some ideas for you and give you some food for thought. Ships wooden decking generally looks pretty similar to this but age and type of ship play a part. Decks get more discoloured with age and neglect but generally are quite an even shade throughout. You would find darker colouration around well used access areas or around machinery such as windlasses and capatans.

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thanks alot richard, thats great! now just to deside how to do it.

so any tips on what colour primer

and also how to make a poll???

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You would have to ask John about setting up a Poll I'm afraid.

Although a darker primer would offer a better base for a darker finish colour there is a sound argument for using a lighter one to help highlight imperfections in the hull when you rub down and fill.

If you think the quality of the hull is good then just go for the darker primer. If the hull needs a bit of work on it first then maybe do a coat of white, do your filling and rubbing then a coat of grey before the top coat.

If you are looking at a purely static model, the hull is perfect and a dark colour to start with you may even consider missing out the primer. I didn't bother with a primer on the U-Boat. I think the paint has a good enough adhesion and it is all going to be protected with an overcoat of flat clear when it is complete.

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Hey guys look at these pics i found they are awsome

http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/german-navy?page=1

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nice picture of the bismark for you there richard!!

the one of the two u-boats shouting over to each other is quite funny.

nice site, thanks nigel!

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Nice pics Richard but thats a very posh cruise liner not a battleship !!! But to add a bit here i know i havent lived my life at sea and walked many a deck (shaded ones lol) but looking at a lot of colour ww2 pics of battleships the deck colours did not seem that uniform also the effect i think looks much more convincing on a model rather than a plain surface

see

http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/us_navy/alf

I think in the end its like aircraft colours you know a seaharrier should be extra dark sea grey but if you painted it in that colour it looks soooo wrong Also i got to admit i like a little of the emphasis that has been given to the deck on the model to me it seems more real!!!! :-)

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Rest of that site is just as good the quality is incredible

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Scale colours help.

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ok thanks alot nigel, is there anyway you can dumb down your way to do decking a bit for me? (just explain it a bit better) i spoze i am going to just have to decide when it comes to it!!!